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goodontv
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First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things.
#5836462 - 07/08/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright, well, I ordered a Hawaiian strain syringe off of spore101, and I've had it close to a week now. I bought a coffee grinder off ebay to grind my organic brown rice, and the grinder just arrived yesterday, so!
Basically, I'm extremely worried about the bacteria! I was thinking of wiping everything down with rubbing alcohol, but I don't understand how I'm suppose to make sure the organic brown rice is completely clean after I make it into the powder. Because of this, my cultivation is being postponed until I'm 100% sure with a complete visual on everything to do.
Also, I don't really have a casing to put the cakes in, and I'm interested in harvesting MUCH earlier when they're pins. I only need around two ounces, and I was hoping anyone knew an alternative to harvest early. The only reason I'm considering this is because I can't get my hands on a fish tank, or the 'rich man's dish,' the $200 incubator, and even mycobags. I actually don't mind harvesting early at all since the smaller shrooms will be more potent theoretically!
Honestly, I've looked at a couple guides, but I'm still unsure and I want the community's opinions/tips and personal experiences on what they recommend.
I must have shrooms.
thanks in advance.
Edited by goodontv (07/08/06 06:29 PM)
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: goodontv]
#5836471 - 07/08/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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liamtheloser
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: goodontv]
#5836494 - 07/08/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ehhhh, wow... i don't know what to say... hmmph.
that's kinda funny actually.
first off, you make sure the 'organic rice powder' is completely 'clean' by pressure cooking/steaming it. 2nd harvesting when they're pins is _NOT_ going to get you anywhere NEAR 2 ounces. i'd be surprised if you got 2 GRAMS of dried pins off a brf cake. anyways, good luck, you should read more. after all, if you're going to wait a month to get pins, why not wait the extra week to harvest? you'll get 10 times the dry weight!
ps. i hope this thread was a funny joke
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: liamtheloser]
#5836496 - 07/08/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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goodontv
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: liamtheloser]
#5836560 - 07/08/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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liamtheloser said: ehhhh, wow... i don't know what to say... hmmph.
that's kinda funny actually.
first off, you make sure the 'organic rice powder' is completely 'clean' by pressure cooking/steaming it. 2nd harvesting when they're pins is _NOT_ going to get you anywhere NEAR 2 ounces. i'd be surprised if you got 2 GRAMS of dried pins off a brf cake. anyways, good luck, you should read more. after all, if you're going to wait a month to get pins, why not wait the extra week to harvest? you'll get 10 times the dry weight!
ps. i hope this thread was a funny joke
thanks about the rice. i've got an idea for that then, but i'm growing a total of ten cakes; I guess i forgot to mention, but I've read the PF Tek guide, and like I said I DO NOT COMPLETELY understand, and I do NOT wish to fuck up.
I'm looking to harvest a couple days after the birthing of the cakes, and I want to know an alternative method that can be used to fruit them that far to produce the two ounces off of ten cakes while they're still probably pins. If this is completely unrealistic, I'm flat-out fucked.
and, I've read as much as I can understand, but i'm not the brightest kid in the world, so please bare with me; this is the last place I wanted to ask. I was expecting the OMG LOL NEWBIEFAG READ THIS SHIT posts, too! but I'm looking for straight words from experienced growers.
yeah..
Edited by goodontv (07/08/06 06:57 PM)
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liamtheloser
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: goodontv]
#5836576 - 07/08/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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2 ounces off of 10 cakes while they're still pins is completely unrealistic. sorry, you're flat-out fucked. you'll probably get 2 ounces WET off 10 cakes, but when they're dried, they'll be 1/10th their wet weight. so you'll have 1/5th of an ounce from 2 wet ounces.
sorry man... chances are, if you aren't pressure cooking your brf/verm cakes, you'll have at least a few contaminated cakes, meaning at the most you'll have 8 fully colonized cakes, and unless you crumble/case, you'll have a very hard time meeting your goal... sorry. for 2 ounces dry, you'll have to have 20 ounces wet... which is roughly 566 grams. from best case scenario, 8 cakes... eek... and that's harvesting at veil-break... if you harvested as pins, you'd need a fucking whip shit of all fucking shitter-bongers. translated = a lot of half pints.
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Edited by liamtheloser (07/08/06 07:05 PM)
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goodontv
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: liamtheloser]
#5836631 - 07/08/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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liamtheloser said: 2 ounces off of 10 cakes while they're still pins is completely unrealistic. sorry, you're flat-out fucked. you'll probably get 2 ounces WET off 10 cakes, but when they're dried, they'll be 1/10th their wet weight. so you'll have 1/5th of an ounce from 2 wet ounces.
sorry man... chances are, if you aren't pressure cooking your brf/verm cakes, you'll have at least a few contaminated cakes, meaning at the most you'll have 8 fully colonized cakes, and unless you crumble/case, you'll have a very hard time meeting your goal... sorry. for 2 ounces dry, you'll have to have 20 ounces wet... which is roughly 566 grams. from best case scenario, 8 cakes... eek... and that's harvesting at veil-break... if you harvested as pins, you'd need a fucking whip shit of all fucking shitter-bongers. translated = a lot of half pints.
thanks!<3 i guess i'll postpone my cultivation a bit longer til I can get my hands on a fruiting chamber. I'm just an impatient fuck, but it's going to take me a long while before I can do that.
still open for opinions from other growers, though =/
edit: ya im dumb
Edited by goodontv (07/08/06 07:28 PM)
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: goodontv]
#5836638 - 07/08/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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liamtheloser is totally right. Also it's a fruiting chamber, not a "casing container".
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: fastfred]
#5836697 - 07/08/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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your expectations are too high.
this is not something anyone can just do and get lots of shrooms. doesn't work like that.
seems to me you are in over your head.
the only way you will ever succeed in this hobby is if you learn for weeks and follow teks to the letter.
soon you will begin to understand. it's like walking into a calculus classroom on day one of the first semester and demanding to be taught all the material and be able to pass the final in two days.
come on now.
This takes time, patience, lots of knowledge, sterility, work, money, etc.
this is in no way a get rich quick scheme. sorry.
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: monstermitch]
#5837340 - 07/08/06 11:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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"i'll postpone my cultivation a bit longer til I can get my hands on a fruiting chamber."
it would be really easy to got to walmart, target, kmart, etc, etc and buy a plastic tub and some perlite and make that your FC.
dont buy the $200 one, instead, get a pressure cooker for $30.
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: esdfsfd]
#5837439 - 07/08/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I followed the growing guide on Erowid.org - so far so good. I ground my organic brown rice up in the blender, rather than a coffee grinder, then baked it at 300 degrees for 20 minutes. I made 8 jars, and NOT a single contaminated one....I did pressure cook them though, I highly recommend the use of one.
As far as a fruiting chamber goes, I agree with esdfsfd, go to walmart, kmart, target...and spend 10 bucks on a rubbermaid tub and a bag of perlite. That's what I did - and like I said before...so far, so good!
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: princestoadstool]
#5837578 - 07/09/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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....I did pressure cook them though, I highly recommend the use of one.
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Re: First time grower, unsure and dont understand quite a few things. [Re: princestoadstool]
#5837589 - 07/09/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Any of your questions can be answered if you read through the FAQ, goodontv.
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