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Offlineredspade1209
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Try to Help me out fellas
    #5834689 - 07/08/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So i want to try 1 hallucinogenic Substance. Ive decided its gonna be a low dosage of shrooms. LSD is actually available in my Area but i don't want anything THAT hardcore.

Heres the problem. I'm so afraid that i might loose control and start killing people or something. According to the media, Shrooms can Wreck me entirely and make me slaughter my family. But instead of listening to the 50 yr old police videos of people who haven't done shrooms Ive decided to ask all of you. Can it really get that intense to the point where i can loose all control? (Even at a low dosage). I saw my buddy flip out on shrooms once explaining to me how he was holding back assaulting our friend and how it was hard for him to maintain sanity.

Please share your thoughts


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InvisibleLe_Canard
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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: redspade1209]
    #5834697 - 07/08/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well, yes, you can flip out, but that's usually on a much larger dose than you're contemplating, I would say. Try to get rid of your pre-trip anxiety, or it'll cause you to have a bad time on it, although I doubt you'll go nuts and kill your family. And remember, "set and setting" - try to trip in a place you feel safe in and with people you like and trust. And most of all, have fun! :laugh: Let us know how it went too.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: redspade1209]
    #5834701 - 07/08/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Can you lose control? Of course you can, but it's likely not going to happen. First and foremost, tripping on mushrooms at low-moderate doses does not take away your perception of reality, it only changes it slightly. You may have visuals of walls breathing or see trails, but you are not going to hallucinate to the point that you lose touch with reality.

Some people will claim that they see things that are not there or manifest images. I do not believe this to be true, but everyone's reality perception is different.

Your trip on that dose should be more than tolerable. If things do get out of hand, meaning you can't handle the trip effects, just remind yourself that it will end and soon.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: Wronguy]
    #5834709 - 07/08/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say take the LSD over the mushrooms. There's nothing "hardcore" about it, despite what people will tell to for whatever reason.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5834992 - 07/08/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Unless you are already a psychotic murdering bastard, a small dose of mushrooms (a gram or so) will not make you lose control and rape your family or something. I've only tripped once so far, on about one gram of Panaeolus Cyanescens, and it was wonderful (trip report here: http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/28896).

But! Do as I did. Read the Psychedelic Experience FAQ here on the shroomery, learn as much as you can about what you're about to do and the experience you're about to have, and above all - don't panic, and don't be afraid. You won't die, you won't go crazy.

Relax, maybe take a hot bath or something so you're all soft and calm already before you get going, set up your environment with everything you might need (see the FAQ), put some neat music and art nearby, eat the mushrooms and just flow with it.

Good luck man, I hope yours will be as good as mine was :smile:


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: FlatHead]
    #5835108 - 07/08/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, you can be excited about it, but don't let it get to you. Just make sure you're in a place where you can hang out and have a good time at for at least 6 hours. Somewhere that you'll hopefully be ok to just get up and move around a little, maybe even a go for a nice walk with a friend. A low dose can be very fun if you let it be.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: redspade1209]
    #5835159 - 07/08/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Mushrooms chew me up and spit me out much more severely than LSD...


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: Organic]
    #5835225 - 07/08/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Organic said:
Mushrooms chew me up and spit me out much more severely than LSD...




I have not Herd ANYTHING like this until i came to these forums. Can you please explain how LSD can not be as intense as shrooms? From what ive herd LSD is the hardest of the hard, when it comes to seeing crap


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: redspade1209]
    #5835235 - 07/08/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

From what Ive heard DMT blows away LSD


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: redspade1209]
    #5835244 - 07/08/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

redspade1209 said:
Quote:

Organic said:
Mushrooms chew me up and spit me out much more severely than LSD...




I have not Herd ANYTHING like this until i came to these forums. Can you please explain how LSD can not be as intense as shrooms? From what ive herd LSD is the hardest of the hard, when it comes to seeing crap




Different people, different chemistry. Mushrooms are much easier on me then LSD but many other people say the opposite. It all depends on YOU.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5835409 - 07/08/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

First of all, NOTHING BEATS DMT "when it comes to seeing crap".

Listen dude, chew on this: Why do you think that so many people LOVE shrooms? (As I do :heart: :regularshroom: :heart:) It is VERY LIKELY that your human brain will react in a similar way to the vast majority of other human brains to psilocybin.

You are going to love it. Just remember:

1)Do not resist! This is a surefire way to get things moving in the wrong direction. Hell, you wanted to experience the effects of the shroom right? Well then, let it happen! The nature of the experience is blissful enlightenment. The only way it could get sour would be if you went in to it WAY TOO NERVOUS.

Also, I suggest you take the equivalent of one eighth of "Mexicans" on your first trip. Terry Mckenna and I agree: You need to have enough of the elf dust in you so that your ego is sufficiently removed from the equation so that your intelligent awareness can simply bask in the eternal everything of existence. Seriously, you want to TRIP right? Take an eighth.

You'll love it! And be sure to post the experience in this thread when it happens! Promise me dude!


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: MXNR]
    #5835428 - 07/08/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

LOL Yeah and smoke a LOT of weed. Bye bye ego....hello death!


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: Newbie]
    #5835463 - 07/08/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I love the quotes in your SIG.


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Pupil: Master, I do not understand...

Master: If you don't understand, eat your food and change your clothes.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: Newbie]
    #5835482 - 07/08/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks. They have a lot of meaning to me.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: redspade1209]
    #5836339 - 07/08/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

IME, LSD has a nice speedy, energetic edge to it. Mushrooms make me delirious and groggy. Easier to get confused when delirious & groggy for me.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: Organic]
    #5837603 - 07/09/06 12:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Redspade, read up on this site and erowid before you decide to trip. You should know as much as you possibly can before you decide to trip because through your knowledge of the substance will come assurance in using the substance, or not using the substance...anyways my point is you should most likely do some of your own independant research as well as what we say here.

Also, you're right for not following the media (AKA the fourth branch of the government). Anything that's in the media is most likely skewed in some way or another.

P.S Newbie shroomie is that a screenshot from Puppet Master in your avatar! If so :thumbup:

Peacefulness.


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: peace_n_love]
    #5837631 - 07/09/06 12:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i like lsd more than shrooms. Low doses of shrooms actually seem more "hard on me" if you will... Psycedelics are psycedelics though. If you think you wouldnt want acid because its hardcore, you may not enjoy the feelings you get from these other hallucinogens.  :pirate:


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: Phishe]
    #5837801 - 07/09/06 02:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Phishe said:
i like lsd more than shrooms. Low doses of shrooms actually seem more


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Re: Try to Help me out fellas [Re: redspade1209]
    #5837867 - 07/09/06 03:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah depends on the person. however i'd say lsd is weak compared to alot of other things (visually speaking, not mind fucky speaking).

mushrooms are kind of average, up in the dose range where you're getting intense visuals they tend to be alot stranger than lsd. like alot alot stranger. lsd visuals are pretty much... archetypical psychedelic? i don't know how to put it. like they're very clean brightly colored pictures or colors or whatever with alot of obvious content. mushrooms are like some wierd dream shit that feels like you're not quite on earth. (at least for me)

stay at 2 grams or less and the above shouldn't apply to you.


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