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qwertymkonji
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Most similar psychedelic to LSD?
#5833406 - 07/07/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What, in your opinion, is the most similar drug to lsd regarding mental state, and also visuals. I have had experience with the following psychedelic substances: 2c-e, psilocybe cubensis, dxm, hawaiin baby woodrose, salvia, and of course, lsd. Problem is, lsd isn't readily available in my area, so I've had to fall back on other things. I've sorta been chasing the lsd experience by trying other substances for a while now.
I think the closest I've gotten is probably 2c-e at 30mg orally. There wasn't much of a trippy/fucked up mental state on the 2c-e, though. Just a lot of visuals and intense body load/feel of tripping. HBWR seeds are somewhat weak, but they DO work when they work. Pretty good trippy mental state on those as well as decent visuals, although the visuals were somewhat weak. I have had a white light/white heat experience on the hbwr seeds that was pretty much mindblowing, so they've got that going for them whereas I haven't had that on lsd.
Anybody care to share their views on this?
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: qwertymkonji]
#5833523 - 07/07/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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LSD blew my mind. Closest i've been is on shrooms, but i haven't really experimented much with psycedelics.
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DinahTheCat
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: Phishe]
#5833597 - 07/07/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wot the fuck is this lsd?
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5833704 - 07/07/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescaline was pretty close...but LSD is a pretty unique feeling. Mushrooms can produce an almost lsd like feeling, but its usually a bit more euphoric.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: Murit]
#5833985 - 07/08/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescaline was pretty close, but mescaline is more psychological, and spirit lifting as is lsd, but lsd is also more visual, and just mind blowing.. Shrooms, I havent really tripped hard enough yet to tell you, still waiting on that..
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: Tomcat23]
#5834425 - 07/08/06 07:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: kora]
#5834435 - 07/08/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the folks at the Lycaeum answered you correctly...there really is no substitute for good ol' LSD. Plenty of other substances that'll trip you out but none come close to L
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: DIRTYMAN]
#5834467 - 07/08/06 08:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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mesc and mush come close enough but they don't fit in your wallet for a rainy day.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: redgreenvines]
#5834502 - 07/08/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, mush has come kinda close at nice high doses, but I found 2-CB (also called bromomescaline and was apparently sold legally for a while in the 80s at low doses as a sex-enhancer for women under the name Nexxus) was the closest when I dosed 25mg orally. I can't speak for the the rest of you, but I found that while encephalating 2-CB made it a stronger experience, it was less gentle and clean, less like lsd. But yeah, nothing but nothing beats lsd!
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: Panoramix]
#5834572 - 07/08/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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strange how a drug experience like 2-cb or mescaline is more similar to lsd than lsa itself.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5835722 - 07/08/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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not to be a nitpicker but its 2c-b not 2-cb
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5835820 - 07/08/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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DinahTheCat said: strange how a drug experience like 2-cb or mescaline is more similar to lsd than lsa itself.
lsa is too much like an ergotamine poison. too much vaso constriction. leg cramping and bellyaching. lsd has no physical body load during it's action. some tiredness later, but lsd itself really has no load - non-toxic at any realistical doses. not so with lsa. but simmilar to lsd, salvinorin has no load - it is also nontoxic (even more so), but it is too short acting, too wild on the dosage curve, and inconvenient to administer (smoking is the only way to make it pocket portable, and still you need a pipe and fire)
so maybe the 2c's are something to look into if you can get them. or DOC which fits on a blotter.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: qwertymkonji]
#5836193 - 07/08/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What, in your opinion, is the most similar drug to lsd regarding mental state, and also visuals.
3,4,5-TRIMETHOXYPHENETHYLAMINE.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: motaman]
#5836223 - 07/08/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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motaman said:
3,4,5-TRIMETHOXYPHENETHYLAMINE.

I'd have to agree. IMHO, mescaline is natures answer to acid. San Pedro and Peruvian Torch are probably the easiest ways to get it. 
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: qwertymkonji]
#5836367 - 07/08/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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DOC -- Duh!
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kora
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: drloomis82]
#5836413 - 07/08/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i dont know much about doc, but i do know that people often fake it as acid. but if its similair why do people give a shit?
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: drloomis82]
#5836427 - 07/08/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Foxy...I had extremely similar visuals on it...the body/mind feel, though...different. Mescaline was comparable as well.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: Organic]
#5836935 - 07/08/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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when my friend was on lsd he was telling me it's almost just like dxm.
I laughed at him. A lot.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: shroomanic]
#5837836 - 07/09/06 03:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Closest is LSA
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: Kras]
#5838838 - 07/09/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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structually, we just went through this (look above)
I heard DOC lasts about two times longer than lsd, being about the second longest lasting drug of that sort next to atropines. Lots of people think down upon dxm merely because its OTC and its main source of users are wastoid teenagers who are out of datura looking for a buzz, but i personally love the expereience, but byitself i always seem to get sick at first, dramamine cures that.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5838845 - 07/09/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushrooms of the psychedelic kind.
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: despisedicon]
#5840533 - 07/09/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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In my personal experience experience the closest combination of drugs that replicate the LSD experience is 2C-I and Calamus Extract. Of the drugs I haven't tried I would think something like DOC + Mescaline + Tagetes Lucidas tea taken regularly on the come up (for euphoria and CEVs).
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: passitbobbie]
#5841857 - 07/10/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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do you mean 2c-i combined with calamus extract, or either one by itself is similar?
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5842003 - 07/10/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I heard DOM is very close to an LSD trip, however it lasts up to 72 hours!! Wow! And Peyo of course... more so then just extracted mescaline (so i hear, i dont have any personal experience).. 
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Re: Most similar psychedelic to LSD? [Re: SDP]
#5842032 - 07/10/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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prolly mushrooms are closest after all notwithstanding some gut feeling closest for intensity and duration
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