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    #5833388 - 07/07/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

hello all,
3days ago i made mushroom tea.
i have since then spent the last 3 days evaporating all the water from it on a sheet of glass i now have a small pile of brown powder, enough to easily snort, do i do it or not!???
you decide.


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: shroomarific]
    #5833390 - 07/07/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

sounds stupid and careless to me, but to each his own, right?


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: distgre1]
    #5833397 - 07/07/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

so do you think its gonna do anything other than make my nose bleed?


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: shroomarific]
    #5833409 - 07/07/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i once read on erowid about a guy that become very unhealthy after smoking mushrooms.... something about the spores and his lungs.

also, doses taken in from the respiratory system, and doses from digestive system change. for example: the same amount of caffeine digested in your stomach can cause overdose if snorted


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: shroomarific]
    #5833426 - 07/07/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

> i once read on erowid about a guy that become very unhealthy after smoking mushrooms.... something about the spores and his lungs.

Bullshit.

> also, doses taken in from the respiratory system, and doses from digestive system change.

Snorting has nothing to do with the respiratory system. Unless it was really fine powder and you snorted it like a crazy motherfucker.

> the same amount of caffeine digested in your stomach can cause overdose if snorted

Also bullshit.

> sounds stupid and careless to me

Maybe you should have some reasoning rather than just talking shit.

I say go for it! I've snorted a lot worse things than shroom extract.


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: fastfred]
    #5833430 - 07/07/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Do It!


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: Yamidude]
    #5833518 - 07/07/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Go for it. No matter how you did it, there shouldn't be anything in it that'll really hurt ya....

Just make damn sure it's fine enough to actually snort.

and by the way...
>Snorting has nothing to do with the respiratory system. Unless it was really fine powder and you snorted it like a crazy motherfucker.

not true...at all...the entire idea of snorting is pulling the stuff into your sinuses...and last time I checked...sinuses are respiratory. Sorry man...you're a great guy, and quite helpful...but I have to mention that you're wrong.

> also, doses taken in from the respiratory system, and doses from digestive system change.

It isn't so much that the dosage changes as far as the body's reaction...more like the potency is drasticly different. My suggestion is to figure up how many grams of mushrooms you would have eaten out of what you made the tea with to have a good trip...
We'll call this number A
Then you divide A into the number of grams you used to make the tea (B)
This will give you the number to divide into the weight of your powder....and viola! safe dosage....isn't math fun? :wink:

However...why exactly you WOULD want to snort this...is kinda confusing to me...it's so much easier to simply drink it in a shot...


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: Yamidude]
    #5833520 - 07/07/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

im sure that some of that powder is shroom extract, but how much of it is dryed tea?
i read a tek that used methenol as an extract agent to creat a brown powder. i was just wondering today if that could be snorted. but hell why not slam it.

my vote is do it


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: shroomarific]
    #5833533 - 07/07/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Do it. Let us know if it burns, gets you high and all the other good shit.


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: Murit]
    #5833538 - 07/07/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well...it really isn't so much a worry about how much of it is dried tea as how much of it is actually psilo....more of how much of it is psilo and how much is just spores...

Next time you make extract, just use a grain alcohol tek instead. Its quite easy.


But I still vote "Fuckin do it!"


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Edited by Murit (07/07/06 10:06 PM)


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: Murit]
    #5833547 - 07/07/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

not to get complicated but there is a thing called the first pass effect ( or something like it) what that is is the stomach and liver destroying up to 90% of what ever it is your taking before it even gets to your head. by snorting you are absorbing the drug through your mucus membrane instead in stomach lining. thous bypassing the first pass. no respiratory tract involved sorry. the mucus membrane has a much quicker path the blood stream. thats circulatory not respiratory. yes snorting dose effect dose. at lest in general.


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: trentallica]
    #5833599 - 07/07/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for pointing out the fact about the first pass effect. I'd never known the actual name of it before, and had forgotten to consider it in my little equasion

However...the nose (Which is what you snort things with) is indeed part of the respiratory system...here's a diagram...
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/7166.html
While true, the mucous membranes there are very thin, and do allow mucous soluable substances (such as psilocybin) to much more quickly reach the circulatory system (and as such the brain) it is not in fact part Of the circulatory system...if the nose were part of the circulatory system, we'd be bleeding all the damn time...


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: trentallica]
    #5833604 - 07/07/06 10:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

> last time I checked...sinuses are respiratory. Sorry man...you're a great guy, and quite helpful...but I have to mention that you're wrong.

Ha!  I guess you got me on that one!

5 shrooms for you for catching a rather technical error on my part. 
Lungs != entire respiratory system
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Re: mushroom extract [Re: Murit]
    #5833625 - 07/07/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Murit said:
Thanks for pointing out the fact about the first pass effect. I'd never known the actual name of it before, and had forgotten to consider it in my little equasion

However...the nose (Which is what you snort things with) is indeed part of the respiratory system...here's a diagram...
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/7166.html
While true, the mucous membranes there are very thin, and do allow mucous soluable substances (such as psilocybin) to much more quickly reach the circulatory system (and as such the brain) it is not in fact part Of the circulatory system...if the nose were part of the circulatory system, we'd be bleeding all the damn time...





it was not my intention to equate the nose to the circulatory system, as it was the method of ingestion. i know damn well that the nose is part of the upper airway system, but the alveolar-capillary membrane of the lungs are not involved in the act of snorting.


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Re: mushroom extract [Re: trentallica]
    #5840963 - 07/09/06 11:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i did it and within about 30secs to a minute i was fucking coming up strong man!
the hole thing lasted about 3 hours though i never actually felt myself peak. the hole thing was just like a headrush i was confused but well worth the effort.
i thought the alcohol tek doesnt work.
and no spores i didnt use caps.


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