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op8-addiction questions; i needs help
#5833179 - 07/07/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i am fairly op8-dependant (1.5 years of daily useage), so after 24 or so hours of not using i get the basic withdrawal symptoms (hardcore body aches, heart-rate jumps significantly, diarehea, etc.).
basically, i am at a complete loss. i will have tricare insurance in about a month. i am looking for any suggestions possible; know of any cheap(er) clinics in the NW florida area? right now i am looking at dropping $13,000 for a doctor in southern florida for a 3 week stay (its dual-diagnosis, in-patient treatment). i am trying to be fairly open-minded, but i am somewhat deterred from any 12-step-type programs and frankly i hated going to NA meetings while withdrawing. i am desperately looking for any ideas/recommendations/suggestions.
with my "get high" doseage for hydrocodone being 150mg, should i look into methadone clinics? would i even be eligeable for one? have ANYONE here had any experience with suboxone treatment?
thanks for any help.
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Re: op8-addiction questions; i needs help [Re: purity]
#5833185 - 07/07/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh, and before anyone recommends it, i CANNOT ween myself by lowering doseages over time. with my history, i am not a responsible op8 user and probably can never be.
also, i am currently unable to crutch on any benzo or barb due to my inability to find them (and i am not looking for sources).
thanks again
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Re: op8-addiction questions; i needs help [Re: purity]
#5833270 - 07/07/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you can never be a responsible opiate user, I suggest not wasting 13,000 dollars on a detox. If I were you, I would look into perhaps seeking ibogaine treatment. Its a fairly radical method, with a small chance of death...but hey you're not going to last very long on that amount of opiates anyways.
http://www.ibogaine.net/ http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ibogaine/ibogaine_faq.shtml
Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
-peace
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Re: op8-addiction questions; i needs help [Re: ZombieJesus]
#5833350 - 07/07/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ive read up on what erowid says about it, but heroin-helper.com (or something like that) reports multiple personal trials with ibo and other than having a long 'trip', the author was still faced with significant withdrawals 24hrs after the affects wore off.
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Re: op8-addiction questions; i needs help [Re: purity]
#5833887 - 07/08/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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well, in realitIy, if you cant ween yourself off, then youre probably going to have to deal with withdrawl.
I will be the first to admit that i havent ever taken any opiates, but from what i hear ibogane is a powerful treatment that has worked for some people, amazingly.
If you cant wean yourself off of these things, perhaps you know someone that can help you through it, and monitor your step down doses for you.
Drive far far into the woods, rent a cabin for a month, and have them controll your supply. everglades perhaps?
Also im worried about the amount of money your considering dropping on this. In the end on amount of money can buy this for you, you have to want it yourself enough to go through, some shitty times, to see the light on the other side.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: op8-addiction questions; i needs help [Re: purity]
#5833927 - 07/08/06 12:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm just saying my friend has had therapeutic psychedelic doses in the right setting that have improved his overall mental well-being. It couldn't hurt to try. Financially speaking, its a more feasible option in contrast with the fat cash you'd have to lay down for a prolonged in-patient stay.
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Re: op8-addiction questions; i needs help [Re: purity]
#5838963 - 07/09/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Suboxone is wonderful for treating opiate dependence. You might try a combination of that and ibogaine. Basically, use Suboxone for the immediate physical withdrawals. Its made to stop mighty powerful heroin withdrawals, so it should be able to do the same for hydrocodone. I think ibogaine would be much more useful for dealing with the mental side of things. For me at least, stopping heroin for a while was really no problem with Suboxone. But after a while you start to feel depressed and life seems empty without opiates. Thats where ibogaine could come in.
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