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Should I take shrooms?
    #5832312 - 07/07/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I have a pretty severe case of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I am very paranoid about many stupid little things and have ridiculous anxiety at all times. I am on a prescription for my disorder...my question is: should I take shrooms or do you think the likely hood of a bad trip is too high? I think taking these would be great but I'm thinking ill be stressing the whole time :frown:
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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: majurd]
    #5834658 - 07/08/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

OCD is a condition brought on by anxiety. If you have anxiety, tripping will heighten the anxiety to a point that you may feel uncomfortable and ruin the experience. If you have never had anxiety or a panic attack during a mushroom trip, you may not associate the feeling with your anxiety and may find out you can have some fun.

Remember, anxiety is a state of mind. Nothing starts anxiety but you. You anxiety is an abnormal reaction to a normal situation brought on by behavioral conditioning. You have to stop the cycle. The best advice I can give is to divert your thoughts when you feel anxiety starting. Irrational thought patterns will almost always trigger your anxiety. The most important thing to remember is that you will not die from anxiety. No matter how hard it gets, you will not die.

I recommend you take a good, hard look at the Linden Method and try to wean yourself off the medication. The medication only helps you cope with the anxiety, not stop it from occurring. I used to suffer from anxiety and have found that 98% of my anxiety has stopped because of the aforementioned method.

I wish you the best of luck.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Wronguy]
    #5835164 - 07/08/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

OCD? Damn... Sorry to hear. Im not sure if I would take the chance if I was in your position but Im sure you might be able to make it work if you practice a type of meditation or a ritual to help calm the mood. Maybe some weed will also take off some of the stress. If you have any doubts though in your head you shouldn't trip, but when you know you have finally have nothing to worry about and you feel that you can do it, try it. What does not kill you will only make you stronger.. but I recommend turning your phone off ring to ignore unwanted interuptions, but keep it on and tell a friend just incase you want to call them during.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Tomcat23]
    #5835173 - 07/08/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Newbie]
    #5835265 - 07/08/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i agree

no way, unless its a small dose


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Atheist]
    #5835333 - 07/08/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think enough people understand literally how powerful mushrooms are. It's unlike any other psychadellic.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Atheist]
    #5835337 - 07/08/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

do like a gram or so, see how that goes and move up. or just have some sort of benzo with you incase shit gets out of hand


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: kora]
    #5835486 - 07/08/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Do a low dose. There are many anecdotal reports of people helping OCD with low-intensity mushroom trips. Who knows...it may help you. Just remember set and setting.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: gururvishnu]
    #5835505 - 07/08/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

or you do a really big trip and just face your issues

a big mushroom trip makes you think about everything in your life and in the world

it could really help a lot to make you think about why you are the way you are

or it would be 6 hours of hell


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Atheist]
    #5836098 - 07/08/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well, i'm pretty sure i used to have a small form of OCD but i have no idea what happened to it. The first two times i took shrooms i definately felt my anxiety, but the second was better than the first, after i did acid its completely gone.

Maybe these psychedelics acted as a cure for my problem.

I'm in no way suggesting it as a cure to you though, IM NO DOCTOR! :smile:


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Phishe]
    #5836302 - 07/08/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm also pretty sure I have at least some form of OCD, how severe I'm not really sure but its definatley there. It causes me some anxiety, but I can usually control it. I tripped about two weeks ago and since then have really felt a decrease in the OCD stuff. I almost always have to do stuff in 3's, now I no longer feel I HAVE to. I don't know if it was exactly because of the shrooms but the fear dissapeared after tripping.

Start with a low does and see if you can handle it then move on if you decide you can.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: massbmx]
    #5836509 - 07/08/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for all the advice.

thats what i was thinking...that it some way it could either help the problem, or make it worse. would taking a prescription also not be a good idea to take shrooms? the prescription is for anxiety.

also one question, my friend told me that her friend took shrooms and saw a little migit guy in her trip, and now, even when hes not on shrooms she still sees him! is this possible? im thinking it might be if she took too much. im just worried that something long term might happen...?


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: majurd]
    #5836744 - 07/08/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i think hes lying, or has some fucked up mental problem. either way i dont think you ocd will ever cause anything like that...


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: kora]
    #5836751 - 07/08/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Atheist]
    #5836783 - 07/08/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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or you do a really big trip and just face your issues

a big mushroom trip makes you think about everything in your life and in the world

it could really help a lot to make you think about why you are the way you are

or it would be 6 hours of hell




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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: kora]
    #5837129 - 07/08/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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i think hes lying, or has some fucked up mental problem. either way i dont think you ocd will ever cause anything like that...




lying about what...?


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: majurd]
    #5837168 - 07/08/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: eyesoftheworld]
    #5837329 - 07/08/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i thought that was a bit extreme, so mushrooms cant hurt you long term if you did it...say 1 or 2 times in moderate amounts? ive heard that it doesnt hurt you physically long term but can effect you mentally. this is the one area that scares me about shrooms since I already have enough wrong w/my brain lol.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: majurd]
    #5837871 - 07/09/06 03:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i don't see why that guy couldn't still be seeing a little midgit guy. i mean its probably pretty subtle, but its totally possible.

anyways, if you do a decent dose i'd say there's a 30% chance you'll be bug out/ 30% you'll be a little anxious but cope with it and get your experiance/ and a 30% chance your normal anxiety will go away.

i'd say you can up your chances of the last one by taking a mild dose of any opiate beforehand.

also, i'd vote for not taking your anxiety meds.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5837933 - 07/09/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ok I can kind of relate to you on this one.

I'm bipolar (which was at one point pretty severe) and take medication for it. I voted DEF not until I gave it some thought.

A few things (from my own experiences) I would recommend/try thinking about:

1) DO NOT take shrooms when your OCD is acting up. If you are anxious during the time forget about it.

2) Make sure you are in a good mood. This doesn't mean force yourself to believe you are. Actually feel it.

3) Do not go for high (ego loss) dosages. I only took 2.5g max (Ive tripped 8 times). only one which was "bad" per se. However, until you have you're OD under control I wouldn't;t venture that far. I still haven't simply because I still get depressed every so often and would hate to to have this amplified 200x.

4) if you're a lone person (I personally didn't find being around friends that great for tripping...distracting plus they were more into it for seein' shit). Make sure someone SANE and who will not just FUCK with you is relatively close by.

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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5838677 - 07/09/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

alright, sounds good.

but to clarify being on my meds while taking shrooms is a good or bad idea? im on celexa. would it be better not to take the meds the night im going to trip?

and lastly to clarify again, can this mentally fuck you up in the long run?


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: majurd]
    #5838712 - 07/09/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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alright, sounds good.

but to clarify being on my meds while taking shrooms is a good or bad idea? im on celexa. would it be better not to take the meds the night im going to trip?

and lastly to clarify again, can this mentally fuck you up in the long run?




I can't speak about the medication, but your question on whether or not psychedelics can mess you up is yes, they can. I personally can attest to the affects bad trips can cause by increasing your anxiety levels. Anxiety can become a problem, if you let it, during your sober life. It all depends on what you allow yourself to succumb to.

Typically anxiety will occur during your sober life when you begin to associate normal situations to your bad trip experience. It could be something as small as your heart racing during exercise, being alone and feeling insecure, looking at a object and seeing something blurry, or anything else that may bring you back to that experience.

Obviously, any anxious reaction is completely unsupported by the drug, but it can reek havoc on your life if you let it.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: majurd]
    #5838752 - 07/09/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well in my opinion being a fellow OCDer it can help you a lot, but I might like to suggest perhaps a guided first session with an experienced tripper in your scenario. Through the use of psychedelics I've overcome many fears, anxieties, and the likes. I now understand that anxiety, depression, and all the other various conditions I suffered from, are merely emotions. If experiencing emotion isn't a natural occurrence then what would be the point of anything... life at all really? There wouldn't be. There would be no happy or sad, good or bad, just and unjust, holy and unholy, sacred, secular. Emotion is what makes a person hide something from one person while exposing it in its entirety to another. Without emotion one would not be inclined to do so for an inclination too is offset of emotion. I cannot fix your OCD. Neither can a doctor, celexa or mushrooms. Only you can. However mushrooms most certainly if used with the right setting could help open your mind to such possibilities. I would not take your meds if you do chose to trip however.

As for 'fucking you up' in the long run, no it won't. Just most important if you start to freak out or anything just remind yourself that you are hallucinating and/or just freaking out because mushrooms intensify everything. in a few hours it'll all be over and things will be 'normal'. I definitely recommend someone with experience with you your first time someone you trust it'd make it a lot easier for you. Hope my insight was useful to you.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #5838855 - 07/09/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ah getting mixed signals now lol.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Newbie]
    #5839046 - 07/09/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree but disagree on a much safer angle.

For me Mushrooms have pointed out my anxieties, other peoples anxieties, skizophrenia, manic depression...all part of the mental high. I only get these harsh realities usually when I'm alone, or tripping with just another friend in the middle of the night. Needless to say out of all my experiences I've dis-respected the consumption or environment in which I went to...or mabye I havn't..mabye I planned it all along; the something to do while stoned and drunk in the middle of the night...We gott'em..I'm ready for anything, always am under the spirits. Let's zoom through the Forest, watch the Tv in Basement listen to music..walk around the mall.

I have done them sober a few times and they were definently easier and more enjoyable trips to handle.

Mushrooms are heavy because they simply don't lie..and that could only be a good thing if you're going to confront them and cure them...dwell on the feelings desirable to you, while sober, high..can't always controll them on a zoom, though; you really never know sometimes what kind of demon you're going to face. This is why setting and your state of mind for that particular day have to be something you love.

You gotta have faith and a logical perspective on yourself and this doomed chaotic world to get passed the broken barrier that is this tradegy..where it seems we've all lost the humanity, and are just confused miserable 9 to 5 come home let the tv and beer be your life. You're already escaping reality today..for the most part.

It's all in the way you perceive everything. Whatever makes sense to you, makes sense to everybody else..because you truly don't know what they are thinking about you..so a little hint..all you can do is have a big smile on your face at all time, especially with a head full of shroom, have a care loving look in the eye..and imagine all the good for that person that you don't know...because they arn't bad, no matter how bad..sure they have probably screwed up and sinned..but thats because they never understood, like you that one time, or her that other..and mabye they havn't learned or figured it out..but that all doesn't matter..because we're all the same...we watch TV, we go to the movies, we obsess are favorite music groups like God...I get Jesus...it's all part of the ride..merley observers..the rich and powerless are the evil, for the most part, because of their selfishness..but I guess there is so many, and they got lucky, they can't care for all..or could they?...oh waiit.I knoow...they havn't got High, they didn't eat their mind, saw God in a different lie..ripped of their best friend, didn't learn.they got away with it..but they still get down, just like us..it seems impossible with all their money..because it's never enough..and when you start beleiving it couldn't get any better it gets worse..but if you didn't see the standards of today, didn't set those goals, or watched your back..then mabye it wouldn't affect you like Richard who never steps foot outside, and if he does, he ignores all people...thinks their all bad, couldn't possibly smile..It's either Hell..or a hellride...you'll zoom in angles, zoom up and down..even go upside down..but ya gotta figure out how to survive and not fall out..just have a little faith in the ones who made it for you..and learn to enjoy it.yeh..then mabye you'll get to that other ride..that one that's beyond..that's the impossible..the thing that should not be, is either funny or scary...it's all up to you..friend. Of course we all have a natural consiounce of logic..for the most part..I find what helps is Marijauna..especially to cope in a messed up technological atom bomb world. If you're honest with yourself and to others then you're the better you. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: Silent_Vinny]
    #5839596 - 07/09/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well i came to the conclusion that as of right now im not going to take shrooms...im just thinking it would be a disaster on my mind.

things i would be thinking about the entire time:
#1: what if these are poisonous mushrooms? what if the dealer didnt know what he/she was doing...i could die.
#2: did i do something during my trip that i am going to worry about the next day??
#3: is my friend going to be alright? (if we did them together)

and a whole bunch of other things, ill have to wait until my medicine kicks in or until i have more confidence in myself before trying shrooms, i know their powerful and i dont want to be overwhelmed. sucks that i cant experience them now...oh well.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: majurd]
    #5839696 - 07/09/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't worry about the dealer giving you poisonous mushrooms any more than I would worry about buying poisonous mushrooms from a supermarket...not likely if they're cultivated.


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Re: Should I take shrooms? [Re: gururvishnu]
    #5839710 - 07/09/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

what does cultivating do to a mushroom...im new at this whole thing.

and are their any pics of shrooms that are dried...alls i see is fresh shrooms in the gallery, id be interested to see what someone would get from a dealer.


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