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GSxx83
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For those who have been to Amsterdam
#5831006 - 07/07/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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For a very long time i have been trying to figure out the amount of fresh mushrooms i ingested on my first trip.
The guy at the smart shop gave me a tiny plastic box and told me and my gf to split the box since it is ou first time.
The trip was mind blowing. There were visuals (patterns moving etc) ,hysterical laughter, crying, insanity, an amazing body high, etc.
We were able to walk around for a while, but eventually as it kicked in, we retreated back to the hotel room for a few hours of "tripping balls".
I was under the impression that we each ate 15grams fresh. (1.5g dry) Because someone told me that these little boxes tend to have about 30g fresh.
What i dont understand is, many people say that an "1/8" is the proper "average"/"beginner" dosage.
Isnt taht 3.5grams? That seems a little bit heavy....considering both my gf and I tripped hard with around 1.5-1.7.
So was i wrong to assume that i ingested that much? were there more in the box? For those who have experience with purchasing shrooms in amsterdam...wha do you think?
The strain was mexi-cube btw.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: GSxx83]
#5831111 - 07/07/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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they were probably really good mushrooms then
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: Atheist]
#5831632 - 07/07/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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potency varies among psilocybe mushrooms, individual reactions to psilocin vary
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: Lion]
#5832386 - 07/07/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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math seems good.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: GSxx83]
#5832515 - 07/07/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Like everyone says, potency/dosage depends on which species you got, how they were grown etc.
I agree with you though, even with average potency cubensis I think 3.5g dried is quite a bit for a beginner.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: DadeMurphy]
#5832558 - 07/07/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pretty much all the shrooms in the smart shops over there come in 35g boxes apart from the stronger species like the Cyanescens i think they come in 15g boxes. I guess you just had some pretty potent cubes, my fisrt trip was off 35g fresh in the dam and although i'd probably recommend it as a good dose for a beginner (only to some people though) it is a bit on the high side for a beginner dose.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: MindFood]
#5832866 - 07/07/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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1.5 of pans could be a nice little trip depending on how good they are..
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: GSxx83]
#5833148 - 07/07/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What i dont understand is, many people say that an "1/8" is the proper "average"/"beginner" dosage.
The problem lies with those people. If you literally ask 2.000 users and take the averages, they use 2.3gr and recommend a little under the same amount to beginners.
1.5gr is plenty, I almost always take less.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: Asante]
#5835101 - 07/08/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The mode in the stats might be a better dose than the average. I can see a buncha people might take really large doses and that would jack the # up, especially considering most people take more than a gram, it would make the average a little bit higher than its supposed to be.
After looking at the study, most people took more than 3 grams of mushrooms, I think that considering how many people take more and how many people take less, 1/8th is still the most common dose, and probally a better average for this example, though the mode isn't quite 50%, over 3.5 grams is over 50%.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: GSxx83]
#5836578 - 07/08/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Remember that about 40% of psilocybin/psilocin is lost in the drying process, so you can't literally compare 15g fresh to 1.5g dry. Sure the mushrooms will go from 15 to 1.5g in drying, but 15g fresh is not equal to 1.5g dry in potency.
I did a lot of fresh shrooms back in my cultivating days, and I found 17g to be a good moderate trip, comparable to 2.5-3g dry.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: supercollider]
#5838859 - 07/09/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't believe at all that 40% of the actives are lost in drying process. The only way that would hold up is if they were dried improperly ( heat, too late).
But anyways, the freshies at a-dam are MIND BLOWING, esp the philosopher stones.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: MycoCakeEater]
#5838880 - 07/09/06 01:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Me and a friend are planning a trip there soon, Can't wait  What other kind of stuff do they have in head shops & cafes ? Is this the same as the box of shrooms you had? says on package, 30g, do not use more than half the package when eating mushrooms for the first time. WARNING: Do not use in combination with medication or alcohol Avoid driving within 8hrs after consumption.
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Re: For those who have been to Amsterdam [Re: UnderNose]
#5841629 - 07/10/06 08:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe there are two different brands that both sell a bunch of different shrooms. Packages are sold containing 30 and 35 grams. Except when you buy the Hawaian shrooms, those are sold in packages of 10 grams.
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