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slaphappy
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Isn't it time we ....
#5830400 - 07/07/06 02:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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.... ripped our heads out of our asses, and joined forces to tell the oppressionists that they can go fuck themselves?
Any idea on how? I have a few, some including violence - not a big fan.
If we were able to create a world-wide culture (not subculture) of happies, not hippies, but happies ... instead of waging wars and raping eachothers natural reasources ...
PAh, I dunno, someone help!
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: slaphappy]
#5830430 - 07/07/06 02:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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life would be a dull and boring thing if there were no constant threat to our survival.
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: slaphappy]
#5830431 - 07/07/06 02:27 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is stupid to pursue happiness. You get it for free by going after something else than happiness.
Telling the oppressionists to go fuck themselves makes me happy.
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slaphappy
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: Nomad]
#5830482 - 07/07/06 03:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, well, yeah, well, yeah, well, yeah well.
I guess everything must be this way.
Think about that the next time someone rapes you in the ass and steals your car and kills your daughter and fucks your skull and inhabit your brain and make you watch terrible terrible shit-coms on tv 24/7 and work 8 hours a day and join the rat race and annoy you with red lights and junk food overflows the front seat of your car and you start bleading out of your ears once your child opens her mouth to scream from the top of his/her lungs to get your attention to get something special from the mall that is solid concrete and inhabit great chains of great supermarkets and super-stores with super-commercials on your super-tv which you watch super shit-coms and flashy intros and vignettes and when you go into the sterile environment of the psychiatric ward when your brain is blown to shits and get medicated and doped up and down and carry the one and you do not understand anything let alone that you dont understand anything and drool on yourself and getting hand-fed by the people who work 8 hours a day and watch terrible shit-coms every waking hour they do not spend at the mall or the burger king or in bed pumped up on the same medication they are feeding you just to be able to sleep so they can be zombie enough to come to work every day and what about the forest which makes the air we breathes which we deem it more important to make furnitures and other extremely important shit from so we can stay in our comfort zones watching shit-coms and feeding and breeding like fucking wildflower and cursing other peoples beliefs religions morals ethics way of life and at the same time barring ourselves in away from nature high up in the sky in our concrete lego blocks with windows turning in against more concrete blocks with windows turning in against the block you live in which you have neatly arranged to be close to identical with everyone elses opinion about whats neat and arranged and you sit there on your windowless bathroom in the very center of your appartment as far away from the outer walls as possible excrementing the shit you eat as quietly and discretely as you can possibly mustard so nobody can tap into your humanity while contemplating and reflecting over the deep and edgy E! magazine which portraits the incredible lives of the people you watch every single waking spare hour in your day on your tube and you have every single piece of usefulness right at your fingertips through the great and vast internet and here there are no boundries and you can say and do and think what you want as long as you don't actually DO anything because then you would no longer be able to do and say and think what you want becuase that is something reserved to the great and vast internet which is a place where everything is possible and nothing can't be done except actually doing something except actually doing something except actually doing something except actually doing something except actually doing something except actually doing something except actually doing something except actually doing something except actually doing something except actually doing something REAL with your life or anyone elses life or with the dog which obviously are your best friend because you never do anything and when you do its because you have to because dogs needs exercize and if you really have to exercize your dog you are a healthy and active individual because you walk around the concrete block once a day so that the dog can shit outside afterwhich you go right inside and eat and shit and say and talk and think and know it all and of course you have the right to relax today because you have been at work for 8 hours so just sit down and relax today because you have been at work for 8 hours so just sit down and relax today because you have been at work for 8 hours so the tv is right there for your benefit and you can always switch over the commercials as long as you remember what you were watching which you close to never do so you end up watching halfway through every funny sit-com and spooky new-age series like LOST and 4400 and RESSURECTION and godknowswhat completely ignoring the great brilliance of a very few shows like arrested development and south park and HAH FAMILY GUY HAHA yeah yeah yeah my brain is juice and its dripping out of my ears and I have a playstation to distract myself with when the internets immense imformation network of bloggermania is no longer the most fascinating thing in history since F.R.I.E.N.D.S so I can run around killing the people that are like me in games like GTA and I can drive around in incredible cars which I take up a second mortgage to afford despite my trophy-wifes distant and passive aggressive moans and I can drive it back and forth to work and sometimes during the weekends or holidays when I'm supposed to rest I get shitfaced drunk and drive around with the top down screaming that I'm on top of the world before I promptly pass out and wake up in my own vomit on monday cursing the fact that I didnt rest at all and my brain is more numb than before and I have to do this for another week and I cannot feel that my brain is gradually getting number for every time I do this and I cannot comprehend that I am more and more zombielike than ever before and I do - repeat - do - repeat - do - repeat - collapse - forget - do - repeat - do - repeat - do - repeat - collapse - forget
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: slaphappy]
#5831507 - 07/07/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, I have to save your last paragraph somewhere !
I think it is time, but those 'opressionists' have accumulated all the means they could, for making sure they stay in this position. And this rape is going on and is getting tighter and harder every day.
That, what you did is the beginning. Heighten ones voice, speak that what you 'feel' and how you rationalize it into reality. Everyone should do that for better one and all.
 Keep on rocking, slap !
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: slaphappy]
#5831822 - 07/07/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I really liked that shpiel, it was a terrifyingly accurate portrayal of today's society, to my mind. One beef though;
"...make you watch terrible terrible shit-coms on tv 24/7 and work 8 hours a day and join the rat race..."
Nobody is actually making you do those things, those are choices and you CAN choose to opt out of the rat race and television and the like. All it takes is a willingness to be ridiculed, a tolerance (or better still, appreciation) of discomfort and some ideas about how you would rather live your life.
As for a)when and b)how we'd like the revolution to occur and c)where on the wall we'd like to nail the oppresionists, I'm a fan of a set of answers along the lines of a)now, b)in the streets with fists in the air, rocks in our hands and our voices finally raised above the incessant din of the daily grind and c)directly above wherever their bodies happen to drop. Sadly these things can't be accomplished in a haphazard or properly spontanious way, it would seem.
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: Panoramix]
#5833499 - 07/07/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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oops
Edited by Clean (07/07/06 09:53 PM)
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: slaphappy]
#5833503 - 07/07/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Absolutely.
It is time we give due respect to what we all feel inside that we really want. Most people know deep down that society is, for lack of a better word, fucked. But we're conditioned to think that our yearnings for a better life are nothing more than unrealistic fantasies.
RESPECT YOURSELF. Listen to that inner yearning, for it is your truth. Don't listen to anyone who says it can't be that way because NATURE has made us what we are, and we are just stuck in this constant battle between the oppressors and the oppressed.
Oh right, somehow the supreme creational force which has created everything on this planet in PERFECT balance just dropped the ball when it came to humans. WOOPS! Creation made a mistake! Sorry! I guess you're stuck being "evil" until you can somehow conquer nature and become master of the universe."
what a load of codswallop!
One thing that is important: By not honoring and respecting ourselves we are joining with the oppressors. They would not be so successful if we did not assist them! They construct the prison, lead us in, and we are often too happy to be the gaurds of eachother inside the prison, all the while holding the key to our freedom. Unlock the doors. Hell, bust down the walls! We're comin home!
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: slaphappy]
#5833837 - 07/07/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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its in the works
the war is almost over.
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Panoramix
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: DoctorJ]
#5834063 - 07/08/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh, how I would dearly love to believe that. But then I look around. So many before have had to lay down their very lives for what meagre advances they managed to achieve, advances that those who follow them are only too happy to sell back off to the oppressionists as though they weren't soaked in our mothers' blood. Liberties repealed, rights revoked, publicly-owned interests privatized... It all seems so 'one step forward, two steps back' sometimes. But it's that time of the very-very-early morning that is conducive to such negative thinking, I'm sure I'll be more hopeful when the sun gets up. After all, this, too, shall pass.
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Quote:
psilocyberin said: life would be a dull and boring thing if there were no constant threat to our survival.
Thats bullshit and you know it!
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: Jalruza]
#5834857 - 07/08/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jalruza said:
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psilocyberin said: life would be a dull and boring thing if there were no constant threat to our survival.
Thats bullshit and you know it!
It may be true for him and some others at this juncture in their lives. Perhaps he doesn't realize that it isn't for others. Some people need the spills for the thrills in life.
Reminds me of this clip from Calvin and Hobbs

For those not familiar with Calvin and Hobbs, the tiger is his stuffed animal that becomes real in his imagination. He has it attacking him from out of the dark closet just to experience a fright thrill to pass the time. He is safe though and always was. I suppose he is symbolic of one who would get bored without the threats to his survival. It's funny to see that thinking depicted like this.
Lets face it, for many pain, suffering and struggle "the drama" and fear of "threats", heightens the primal senses and can make one feel more alive.
How does one not have the senses become dulled without it?
What goals can one set not related to meeting or securing survival needs (if they are already covered)?
What are non threatening ways to achieve thrills and chills?
What can be done to help others appreciate "creations" while realizing, they are fleeting and impermanent like everything else here. If everyone did, the need to feel they have to be owned and protected would give way to allowing all to freely enjoy what it is while it is as it is. I think that is one of the toughest humps human kind will have to get over as a whole.
I've made great strides in these areas and yet sometimes find myself pulling a Calvin for old times sake. Sometimes, it gets hard living in my own utopio with others who found it when you see others living in so much unnecessary struggle and fear and you want to go back in and help. Just being candid as I know others can relate to this.
Great topic of the times indeed slappy as many are waking up to realize this game of survival was all make believe. The questions that arise for them is 'So now that I know this, now what I do with myself and this life?"
Lets work with a hypothetical. Everyones feed back would make for some great, constructive and inspiring reading here
Let's say everyone has their survival needs and then some easily met -food/water shelter vital health and general good well being, a strong sense of community belonging and unity, all beyond the fears that generate attacks against one another, the need to conquer and dominate others and greedy withholding. BAM we are all there- Utopia!
Now what do we do with our time, energy and resources as one body of people that have evolved beyond survival needs and fears?
What does phase two look like?
Seriously think about those two questions. How can we expect the world to move beyond the old game without any direction or light shed on where and what it is to move into while providing the same sort of sensory stimulation that makes us feel so alive in body here?
I think some get turned off and turn back to the old game because all they hear are ideas of holding hands and singing kumbahya and it holds little lasting appeal compared to the intensity of the fears and dramas and the challenges that make villains, victims and hero's out of people.
Even when some people realize it's all make believe, they still like playing pretend games of cops and robbers anyway.
What can life be like here without villains, victims and hero's in a way that gives the same stoke to the fires?
Describe it in your own words- anyone?????????????????????
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Beautiful words
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in response to your hypothetical: You summed up that concept of "what do we do next" quite well...
It seems to me that in our classical way of thinking we forget that even in a "Utopia" life may still require some physical labor.
Who is going to tend the farms? Robots? is that sustainable? I guess I'm still thinking in terms of agriculture..maybe we'll just become sun gazers  Perhaps, for the purposes of that post, you're envisioning a future where we don't need to farm... is that what you mean by having food "taken care of"? 
Let's set aside those details for now (though i'm interested in any ideas you have) and consider the social excitement of the survival instinct, the villains and heros... I think that all these roles we ascribe to others are sourced within us.
Is it possible that we create the heroes because we can't imagine ourselves doing such great things? Is it possible that we create the villains because we do not want to consider that "dark" side of ourselves? We're masters at vicariously feeding our power to other people, dressing them up as characters, desigining their costumes and then gazing at them in the mirror of ourselves and deciding that we like or don't like that other person based on the costume we've given them.
This is not to say that one cannot do wrong or good to someone else, regardless of how we judge it. But can we judge a person's entire being based on our outsider's perspective of a few situations?
I feel that we can all get along and still have an exciting time exploring our own consciousness.
Find the villain in you. Find the hero in you. Get to know yourself, and you will begin to know Creation.
The 'final frontier' is not north, south, east, west, up in space or down under the ocean. It is infinite, and all we have to do to get there is turn our gaze inward.
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: Panoramix]
#5835696 - 07/08/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Panoramix said: Oh, how I would dearly love to believe that. But then I look around. So many before have had to lay down their very lives for what meagre advances they managed to achieve, advances that those who follow them are only too happy to sell back off to the oppressionists as though they weren't soaked in our mothers' blood. Liberties repealed, rights revoked, publicly-owned interests privatized... It all seems so 'one step forward, two steps back' sometimes. But it's that time of the very-very-early morning that is conducive to such negative thinking, I'm sure I'll be more hopeful when the sun gets up. After all, this, too, shall pass.
"Please don't cry... in the morning light." -Concord Dawn
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: slaphappy]
#5836642 - 07/08/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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slaphappy said: .... ripped our heads out of our asses, and joined forces to tell the oppressionists that they can go fuck themselves?
Any idea on how? I have a few, some including violence - not a big fan.
If we were able to create a world-wide culture (not subculture) of happies, not hippies, but happies ... instead of waging wars and raping eachothers natural reasources ...
PAh, I dunno, someone help!
You mean its time to stop being the opressed and become the opressor?
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Zounds good to me.
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: slaphappy]
#5838843 - 07/09/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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just wait till the nukes start flying. hoard your shit and head to the woods. or just do it before the nukes fly. society isn't going to forget its comforts now that it knows what they are.
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Panoramix
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"For those not familiar with Calvin and Hobbs, the tiger is his stuffed animal that becomes real in his imagination. He has it attacking him from out of the dark closet just to experience a fright thrill to pass the time. He is safe though and always was."
Um, nice try with that self-serving interpretation. Like any true Calvin & Hobbes afficionado, I recognize that as Calvin's FRONT door, not his closet door. Hobbes is greeting Calvin with an enthusiastic pounce as Calvin gets home from school in that strip, and Calvin knew full-well that such an attack could be expected. I'm guessing that the attack is motivated more by Calvin's desire for an exciting and exhuberant friend to play with when he gets home, being as he has no actual friends to greet him so boisteriously.
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Re: Isn't it time we .... [Re: Panoramix]
#5839180 - 07/09/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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