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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: downforpot]
#5841090 - 07/10/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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downforpot said: No, FUCK THAT, I want him to come in here and admit it that he lost. I want him to also tell me why he called me a White Nigger.
You need to properly execute the reply function, cuz I thought you were waiting for me to respond.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: downforpot]
#5841755 - 07/10/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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downforpot said: So even though my black friend who still listens to rap and has dreads is currently an intern at Monsanto he is still inferior?
I adapted a foreign culture? I'm not even American.
Historically performed sub-par? In which millenia? African Kingdoms were much more powerful than European a 1000-2000 years ago. Heh, there were no European Kingdoms during that time. Every culture has their times of glory. You really need more school because you are highly uneducated.
You are just like the people that thought Rock currupted people and lead to more crime, LOL. Give it 40 years and the current Hip-Hop generation will start saying " ___________ creates crime in our society."
OK, so even though a person adapts a culture that failed in recent history, then what? What will happen? I'm still going to a university for free, got more money this year, gonna buy a laptop. WHAT? WHAT WILL HAPPEN? I am on top of the world, WHAT THE FUCK IS GONNA HAPPEN TO ME IF I LISTEN TO HIP-HOP?
Usually it is customary to provide proof when making such outlandish claims. I would like to see one African kingdom that can come close to the Greek/Roman/Byzantium/English Empires.
You are not being truthful when you claim that hip-hop does not instigate violence. I listen to hip-hop, I know all about it, my favorite rappers are Nas, Big L, 2 pac, Biggie, Snoop, Mobb Deep, way more. Anyway, I have been to hip-hop shows and clubs, and I can't act like myself, or else people will fuck with me. I have to put on a front and act "hard", its so stupid that I won't even go to shows anymore. I saw people get punched out for stepping on someones sneakers. I threw up on some guy at a radiohead concert, and he offered me some of his water, and assistance in my time of need. 80% of people who listen to hip-hop try and live the lyrics, acting like big dipshits in the process. With that said, there are some like myself, who know they are not "gangstas", and don't try to act like "thugs". I just listen to it, because I like the way it sounds.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5841772 - 07/10/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are you familiar with Egypt?
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Redstorm]
#5841835 - 07/10/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fair enough, that is one. He said Kingdoms I believe, so if you can name a couple others that are on this level, I would be impressed.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5841907 - 07/10/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not a history major or anything, so I may have to look some stuff up to remind myself.
Carthage was a pretty decent empire in northern Africa during the era of the Roman Empire. I'm sure you've heard of the great tactician, Hannibal. He fought for them.
I'll look up some more because, like I said, my ancient history is damn rusty.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Redstorm]
#5841931 - 07/10/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, I have heard of them. It is impressive, but not as impressive as the English empire! 
To downforpot: You honestly thing that hip hop does not initiate violence?
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5842086 - 07/10/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccan seeker, this is to you. You say south Africa is the end product of racial separation, which is wrong. It is the end product of apartheid,which is different. Racial segregation, on the grand scale duckyousucker is referring to would be that each country would be racially homogeneous, IE japan. The problems that occurred in SA would be non-existent. I'm not saying I think that is the solution, but the situation in SA is a direct result of a people living oppressed, like in the USA. How can a people be oppressed(racially) if the only people living in the state were of the same race?
Racially homogenous... Except nobody has any right to live in the USA except Native Americans and nobody has any right to live in South Africa except black Africans, according to this theory if it is evenly applied. But no, I think 'sucker rather wants to COMPLETE the theft, complete the crime, by deporting anyone non-white out of his (stolen) country. If you believe in multiculturalism the USA is what it is, if you believe in segregation then the USA is stolen property.
I'm going to deport my neighbors from their house and demand that they leave to a country that is Neighbours Only so that I can increase my garden
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5842103 - 07/10/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's sad that in todays America, some ebonics mumbling 'groid is able to get anything other than a job picking cotton.

Don't listen to the WTFs, xDYSx.. Hear that soft rustling sound? That's the majority of the forum writing you off as a serious debating partner.
Racism isn't leftwing or rightwing.. It's just dumb.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Asante]
#5842142 - 07/10/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am somewhat disgusted to see people saying that non-english speaking immigrants are not a problem. I live in central texas and there are fucking billboards in spanish, every single form or pamphlet you get is bi-lingual, not a single construction/janitor/any service job can understand a word you are saying. LEARN ENGLISH.
I would'nt move to Mexico and not learn how to speak spanish. I think they are an overall ungrateful people.
Build the wall Bush. Build it tall and build it long.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Asante]
#5842230 - 07/10/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccan seeker, this is to you. You say south Africa is the end product of racial separation, which is wrong. It is the end product of apartheid,which is different. Racial segregation, on the grand scale duckyousucker is referring to would be that each country would be racially homogeneous, IE japan. The problems that occurred in SA would be non-existent. I'm not saying I think that is the solution, but the situation in SA is a direct result of a people living oppressed, like in the USA. How can a people be oppressed(racially) if the only people living in the state were of the same race?
Racially homogenous... Except nobody has any right to live in the USA except Native Americans and nobody has any right to live in South Africa except black Africans, according to this theory if it is evenly applied. But no, I think 'sucker rather wants to COMPLETE the theft, complete the crime, by deporting anyone non-white out of his (stolen) country. If you believe in multiculturalism the USA is what it is, if you believe in segregation then the USA is stolen property.
I'm going to deport my neighbors from their house and demand that they leave to a country that is Neighbours Only so that I can increase my garden
OH I don't think this is fair, possible, right, I am simply saying IF: if NA was given to the natives, Africa to blacks, Europe to whites, etc......Do you think it would eliminate a large number of problems that face multicultural societies?
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5842325 - 07/10/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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alpharedecho said: Fair enough, that is one. He said Kingdoms I believe, so if you can name a couple others that are on this level, I would be impressed.
http://www.homestead.com/wysinger/ancientafrica.html http://www.csusm.edu/Black_Excellence/documents/pg-g-m-s-empires.html
Kush, Ghana.... How did you not cover this in AP World History? We spent a month at least covering all the African Kingdoms. I remember one guy in North Africa took a caravan around there and handed out gold bars to people on the streets... caused the price of gold to drop in the region.
It seems like most people here have no knowledge of anything that happend in pre-Columbian times... There were Kingdoms and Empires before Europe started exploring... You do know that? Right? Maybe not as big but they did exist and they did conquer other people for wealth, slaves, etc.
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alpharedecho said: Yes, I have heard of them. It is impressive, but not as impressive as the English empire! 
To downforpot: You honestly thing that hip hop does not initiate violence?
English Empire? You mean British Empire? The only reason the Europeans pushed for exploration is because of a push from Europe. Europe was over crowded, there were religious squables between different groups and the kings wanted wealth... That is the reason people started to explore. Africa didn't have that problem because it is pretty big and people weren't packed together like cattle.
By the way, China was much more advanced than Europe during the age of Discovery. They just stayed to themselves and only captured the surrounding territory, just like the Africans. I guess since the Chinese didn't try to conquer the whole globe that must mean they are inferior even though the Europeans were craving for Chinese goods like the crackheads crave for crack.
Also, do you consider Arab Muslims black or white? You forget how quickly they conquered the Middle East, North Africa and Southern Europe under the banner of Islam? By the way, Moores did fuck the Sicilians... LOL Honestly people, go take a World History, shiet. This shit is pretty much common sense to me after acing that class.
Can you differentiate between rap and hip-hop? I suppose you also think Slipknot and Metallica also initiate violence? You wanna see some violence? Go to a slipknot concert and don't be in the fucking seats, get on the floor and wait for a brutal pit my friend and then you will see violence first hand, you will be surrounded by it and the only choice you will have is to join the violence.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5842358 - 07/10/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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alpharedecho said: OH I don't think this is fair, possible, right, I am simply saying IF: if NA was given to the natives, Africa to blacks, Europe to whites, etc......Do you think it would eliminate a large number of problems that face multicultural societies?
No, no it would not eliminate the problems that face "multicultural societies" because all of the supposedly "homogenous" societies would just create their own subdivisions.
Like the Nazis killing Jews who are ethnically German, the religious conflicts in the Balkans (Bosnian Muslims vs. Bosnian Christians), the Japanese artificially creating samurai and peasant classes, etc. et al.
If people don't look physically different they will find other differences upon which to base their hatred.
This isn't a function of multiculturalism it's a function of any and all humanity, no matter where they are located in the world.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Economist]
#5842364 - 07/10/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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We don't have that problem in Saint Louis, wierd. Everyone is chill with eachother. The only people I got beef with in STL is rich ass stuck up white boys who get their stereos stolen by black kids and then sold to me for half the price, HA HA HA HA.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Asante]
#5842408 - 07/10/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Racially homogenous... Except nobody has any right to live in the USA except Native Americans and nobody has any right to live in South Africa except black Africans, according to this theory if it is evenly applied. But no, I think 'sucker rather wants to COMPLETE the theft, complete the crime, by deporting anyone non-white out of his (stolen) country. If you believe in multiculturalism the USA is what it is, if you believe in segregation then the USA is stolen property.
I'm going to deport my neighbors from their house and demand that they leave to a country that is Neighbours Only so that I can increase my garden
Typical anti-white fallacies. You make it sound as if their were one Tribe O' Indians living here in brotherhood, when in fact, their were many different tribes. Different languages, different cultures, different racial characteristics. They also fought each other quite frequently. The way I see it, if one party fights another for their land, they are accepting that war and conquering is a morally acceptable method of expanding your empire. Don't cry just because our superior technology allowed us to dominate their wars.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Redstorm]
#5842409 - 07/10/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Are you familiar with Egypt?
Are you aware that the people in Egypt aren't black?
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5842424 - 07/10/06 01:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ghana? Mali? Songhay?
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: downforpot]
#5842429 - 07/10/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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They don't seem to be doing too well now, hm?
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5842448 - 07/10/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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xDuckYouSuckerx said: They don't seem to be doing too well now, hm?
Neither is the British Empire, Oh wait, nm, it's gone too.
Reply to this post http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5842325#Post5842325
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: Economist]
#5842453 - 07/10/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Economist said:
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alpharedecho said: OH I don't think this is fair, possible, right, I am simply saying IF: if NA was given to the natives, Africa to blacks, Europe to whites, etc......Do you think it would eliminate a large number of problems that face multicultural societies?
No, no it would not eliminate the problems that face "multicultural societies" because all of the supposedly "homogenous" societies would just create their own subdivisions.
Like the Nazis killing Jews who are ethnically German, the religious conflicts in the Balkans (Bosnian Muslims vs. Bosnian Christians), the Japanese artificially creating samurai and peasant classes, etc. et al.
If people don't look physically different they will find other differences upon which to base their hatred.
This isn't a function of multiculturalism it's a function of any and all humanity, no matter where they are located in the world.
Look at Japan......look at their crime stats, their economy. They are thriving. Lowest murder rate in the world I believe, or close to it.
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Re: Just to clarify- My views on "racism" [Re: downforpot]
#5842459 - 07/10/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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downforpot said: We don't have that problem in Saint Louis, wierd. Everyone is chill with eachother. The only people I got beef with in STL is rich ass stuck up white boys who get their stereos stolen by black kids and then sold to me for half the price, HA HA HA HA.
Crime Type 2004 Total Per 100,000 People National per 100,000 People Overall St. Louis Crime Index 45701 13636.3 3982.6 St. Louis Violent Crimes 6897 2057.9 465.5 St. Louis Murders 113 33.7 5.5 St. Louis Rapes 111 33.1 32.2 St. Louis Robberies 2632 785.3 136.7 St. Louis Aggravated Assaults 4041 1205.8 291.1 St. Louis Property Crimes 38804 11578.3 3517.1 St. Louis Burglaries 6300 1879.8 729.9 St. Louis Larceny/Thefts 23592 7039.4 2365.9 St. Louis Motor Vehicle Thefts 8912 2659.2 421.3 St. Louis Arsons 1 576 171.87 N/A
Everyone is chill eh? looks like it.
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