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Re: Panic attack [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #5845869 - 07/11/06 05:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sure - basically it can effect your blood pressure in a number of ways - either by increasing norepinephrine levels which dilate blood vessels or just by decreasing the blood pressure directly by suppressing the autonomic nervous system reaction to standing.
Basically what happens is that blood pressure and blood flow can be reduced because of venous dilation causing the bodies autonomic nervous system to become overexcited to counteract this problem. This only happens in people who are suseptible to either low blood pressure or orthostatic hypotension (feeling dizzy when you stand suddenly)
This is done by releasing epinephrine and norepinephrine which cause anxiety, clamminess, heart rate increases and body tremors, but this actually makes the problem worse, because norepinephrine actually dilates the vains more.
This creates a cycle where the brain flow and presure is reduced causing mental confusion and dizziness, and in some people fainting on standing, and trembly feelings, heart racing and anxiety.

its all proven- most medical texts explain that marijuana is a potent cause of postural hypotension.


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Re: Panic attack [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5845889 - 07/11/06 05:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for that infomation bluemeanie.I have a hypotensive crisis when i smoke THC ,even from a single hit. Your post is like a Q.E.D.


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Re: Panic attack [Re: MetaMountain]
    #5846142 - 07/11/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"This creates a cycle where the brain flow and presure is reduced causing mental confusion and dizziness, and in some people fainting on standing, and trembly feelings, heart racing and anxiety."

You are my savior on this information, I have commonly those trembly feelings ( feeling you get when you get close to a very high edge), racing heart and heart palpitations. I am very scared to investigate the reason, in that it could be something very serious, which this could be, but I am in that cycle. Is this cycle called "postural hypotention"? Just making sure I read correctly. I really would like to get rid of this, as it affects my daily life greatly. Thank you very much on this information. It means ALOT. :cool:


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Re: Panic attack [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #5846157 - 07/11/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I wonder if viagara would help?


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Re: Panic attack [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5849083 - 07/11/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

My friend that suffered the experience was an avid smoker whom I've gotten very high with on a number of occassions. As far as I know, it was an isolated experience.

I've experienced a lot of mental confusion and dizziness before when smoking weed. I find that this only happens when I smoke primarily sativa based strains. Is it possible that only certain types of weed create low blood pressure?


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Re: Panic attack [Re: johnjohnandjamal]
    #5850705 - 07/12/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Blue meanie, this cycle, is there a name for it. Also, what are some ways to get out of it?


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Re: Panic attack [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #5860923 - 07/15/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

its just a bodily reaction to THC. The best way to avoid it would be drink some licorice tea to increase your blood pressure. And yes it is a form of pronounced postural hypotension.
If you get it all the time, there is a medication for it called florinef, but some poeople get bac side effects from this.


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Re: Panic attack [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5860988 - 07/15/06 07:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm guessing that there could have been mold on the weed that was used when baking the cookies. I've heard of this being a common affect along with not being able to move when someone consumes shrooms that have a mold on them so why would it be much different with mary jane.


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Re: Panic attack [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #5874070 - 07/18/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I have stopped smoking marijuana, as it was a daily thing, been clean for about a week, and still in the cycle. Is it caused by something else?


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Re: Panic attack [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #17110925 - 10/27/12 09:54 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

bluemeanie said:
its just a bodily reaction to THC. The best way to avoid it would be drink some licorice tea to increase your blood pressure. And yes it is a form of pronounced postural hypotension.
If you get it all the time, there is a medication for it called florinef, but some poeople get bac side effects from this.




Would actual licorice bars do the job too ?

I am very interested in this I wrote a post about Anxiety/Panic attacks and how I deal with them. there is definitely a link with this standing up thing cause I can feel extra mangled if I am too high when I stand... if I get up the high almost doubles ! So i go up really really slowly like over 30 seconds so the body does what it needs to slowly avoiding a sudden change.

Interesting topic and worth cross referencing the posts.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17105452


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