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ngnyus
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Any body grafted hops to pot before?
#5825522 - 07/05/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just wondering cuz I got a bunch of hops seeds I've been cold stratifying for 6 weeks and there good to go. I was hoping someone out here may have done this before and give me some pointers, and maybe some info on the finished product.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: ngnyus]
#5825643 - 07/05/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hops doesnt produce thc, so if your looking to get hops that contains thc.........it wont work.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: SaturnGlass]
#5825749 - 07/05/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who would want to smoke hops anyway?
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Anonymous]
#5826217 - 07/06/06 12:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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so if your looking to get hops that contains thc.........it wont work.
not to say hops actualy does contain THC after the graft or flower, but it does get you high like cannabis when smoked (though a little different), compared to regular hops, which effects are minimal for.
ngnyus, try and match the "core" of the stems together as best u can, and it will need some sort of breathable tape, I think they sell grafting tape in most advanced garden stores (fuck kmart). Make sure both plants are very healthy, and leave as little exposed time to the core part as you can.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: CptnGarden]
#5829072 - 07/06/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanx shroomie, much appreciated info.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? *DELETED* [Re: ngnyus]
#5869399 - 07/17/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Post deleted by StroFunReason for deletion: Certain moderators/admins are responsible for me removing any inkling of a legit contribution...
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: StroFun]
#5869573 - 07/17/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Highbred.net actually had someone with a lowryder x hops highbred experiment, and before he could if the plant was sterile or not, he was arrested, and the experiment was scrapped, there may still be pictures of it on there. It grew slightly vine-like with cannabis leaves.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5869595 - 07/17/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Highbed has been down for 4-6 days, now so is ICMAG.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
#5869624 - 07/17/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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icmags not down.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: CptnGarden]
#5869853 - 07/17/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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it was for a couple of hours.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: ngnyus]
#5869859 - 07/17/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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When hops is grafted to pot it grows just like it did on the hops plant. No thc is gonna appear in the hops. Then again it works the same for pot. When grafted to the hops plant it grows like it was on the pot plant. The pot branch grafted to a hops plant will be the only branch with thc. Have some hops plants growing and graft some branches to em and use it as camo. That would be the only reason to do it.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Magash]
#5869937 - 07/17/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes there is no benefits whatsoever using hops as rootstock .i dont think its possible to pollinate a cannabis plant with hops pollen either so i doubt that lowryder x hops story unless it was, a cannabis with a hops rootstock and not an actually hybrid
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: shamantra]
#5869978 - 07/17/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll show some proof when highbred comes back on.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5870622 - 07/17/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know anything but internet lore about this subject, but I'm gonna try it anyway, several sources say the reason hops seeds are so hard to get now-a-days is because for a while alot of people were doing this and the fda sent out a directive.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: ngnyus]
#5870652 - 07/17/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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hops seeds are in no way difficult to get. that is ridiculous, no offense but you shoudl have tried to find some before you believed that.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5872347 - 07/18/06 04:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheMadConductor said: I'll show some proof when highbred comes back on.
well i would like to see this for sure, because its supposed to be impossible in theory,. the fact that humulus and cannabis is in same family and share same chromosome numbers does not make it possible for them to cross necessarily. this has never been done before with success and ed rosenthal among many others have tried this in the 70-80s. i believe genetic engineering is needed to change the equation first in order to cross them. but i sure would like to see this.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: shamantra]
#5872717 - 07/18/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm a biotech major. Maybe one day I could work that out. I was thinking the other day; So far most of the recent "new" plant based psychoactives in recent years have been plants that have been used by indigenous people for a long time and have just now been made, via the internet more accessible. Anyways I'm sure there are a few still out there. I just wonder if the next generation is going to come from genetically engineered plants.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#5873578 - 07/18/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hops was not crossed with pot. The pics used on highbred are actually from a guy named Fet owner of Spice Brothers Seeds. The pot plant that grew like a vine was from a strain called Dizzy Here are some Dizzy pics Young Dizzy's 
Dizzy in vine form 
Male Dizzy 
Close up of a Dizzy starting to bud 
As far as I've seen in some 20 years at this Fet is the only one working on the genetics of the plant to change the shape and look of the plant. Problem is dizzy has potency issues.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Magash]
#5873608 - 07/18/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, that is amazing. Does this have any ducksfoot in it and are seeds available?
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Organic]
#5873659 - 07/18/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are suppose to be on the market soon but Fet has been saying that for about two years now. He can't seem to get past the potency thing. No ducksfoot but there is some Australian hemp plant hat gives it it's shape.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Magash]
#5873745 - 07/18/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting, thanks
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Organic]
#5873979 - 07/18/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Check this post out. Same subject as the pictures posted above...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4986900
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#5878926 - 07/19/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn it, your all right. Done some studying and it's a myth that came about during a crude government study in the '40's. SUMBICH! Edit. Ya,ya I know utfse, but that's how I got to this conclusion in the first damn place.
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Edited by ngnyus (07/19/06 07:46 PM)
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#5878957 - 07/19/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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mr_minds_eye said: I'm a biotech major. Maybe one day I could work that out. I was thinking the other day; So far most of the recent "new" plant based psychoactives in recent years have been plants that have been used by indigenous people for a long time and have just now been made, via the internet more accessible. Anyways I'm sure there are a few still out there. I just wonder if the next generation is going to come from genetically engineered plants.
Speaking of which, I was thinking today at work, would it be possible to genetically engineer an LSA producing plant/fungus to create LSD? I mean, the synthesis of the chemical is extremely tough for scientists to do, but can it be possible to make a plant able to do it? Think of the possibilities and what this can do for the LSD market.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: ngnyus]
#5901581 - 07/26/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheMadConductor said: I'll show some proof when highbred comes back on.
Here I come to the rescue
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Magash said: Hops was not crossed with pot. The pics used on highbred are actually from a guy named Fet owner of Spice Brothers Seeds. The pot plant that grew like a vine was from a strain called Dizzy Here are some Dizzy pics Young Dizzy's 
Dizzy in vine form 
Male Dizzy 
Close up of a Dizzy starting to bud 
As far as I've seen in some 20 years at this Fet is the only one working on the genetics of the plant to change the shape and look of the plant. Problem is dizzy has potency issues.
Goddamnit, i have no right to correct you but....
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ngnyus said: Damn it, your all right. Done some studying and it's a myth that came about during a crude government study in the '40's. SUMBICH! Edit. Ya,ya I know utfse, but that's how I got to this conclusion in the first damn place.
Well i was with you until i saw this!
Hops X LR, Is it possible? http://www.highbred.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=710
some pics of LowXHops (mother was a Low, so she goes first)



Those don't look photoshoped, don't look like Regular MJ, and don't look like Dizzy.
So... Maybe it was a Liger (Loin & Tiger)
to bad about the 5-0 LEO can
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
#5904525 - 07/27/06 07:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont buy that to be hops x cannabis at all, however ive sent these photos and a copy of the thread to an expert in the field at NTNU university of norway for an expert opinion and is awaiting reply there.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: shamantra]
#5904592 - 07/27/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks like a mutant from regular seed to me. Tiny mature seeds often pop those out.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Organic]
#5904960 - 07/27/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you read that thread you will see that there were male Lowryders being kept in another room. But you also read that he took a male Hops flower and placed it over/on top of/ the fem low.
I'm not total convinced either way. I'm just spreading the Knowledge.
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
#5905727 - 07/27/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes, the professor I sent the pics to replied to me and confirmed to me that it would be impossible to cross these two species like described in the thread and she did not belive this to be true at all and she belived the plant to be a cannabis plant. I also got a nice reminder that cannabis was illegal heh
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Re: Any body grafted hops to pot before? [Re: shamantra]
#5925215 - 08/02/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Before it happened i don't think people though That a horse and a Donkey could mate. A Loin and a Tiger? (Napoleons favorite animal)
I not convinced that the LowHops happened, but I'm not just writing it off.
He posted a lot of early pictures. You could tell that he never topped, and then he posted this stem shot.

That branching structure does not look like cannabis to me. Here is a picture of the Father (I assume, he never explicitly said that this plant was the father)
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