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Cody69
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Different Strains Different Feel?
#5822531 - 07/05/06 03:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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My friend is ready for his second time growing. His first time he grew amazonian with brf cakes and was very pleased. Recently he read about different strains having different feelings and colonization times on the shroomery wiki http://www.shroomery.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/StrainGuide/StrainGuide
Now, I was wondering if this is true that different strains have different feels. Would anyone recomend a good colonizing, high yielding and powerful mushroom for me? thnx yo!
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: Cody69]
#5822537 - 07/05/06 03:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Despite what most like to say, "A cube is a cube etc", there are noticable differences in buzz type. Ralphsters descriptions are usually dead-on.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: FungusMan]
#5822543 - 07/05/06 03:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ralphsters? is he the wiki shroomery guy or a complete seperate source?
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: FungusMan]
#5822546 - 07/05/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's all in how you take care of them. You feed it, it will grow... more nutrients and it will grow better, faster, bigger, and more powerful. IMHO and from research if you use the brf tek you can grow what ever type of grain loving mushy's you want... If you spawn it to h/poo, straw... that gives it food.. food always helps everything grow.. GT's were my first and are still faster than others. But remember too.. first grow on your first strain will always take longer. This is what you call first generation, after that each generation will grow faster as they adapt to your environment. :-)
good luck!
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: Cody69]
#5822679 - 07/05/06 06:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ralph is a spore vendor--and a very kind one at that. All cubensis are pretty similar in the buzz they produce. I have never been able to say that any difference between strains is greater than the similarities. Potency is absolutely based on the substrain of spores, regardless of the medium on which they are cultivated. Bulks and large casings will simply produce more and bigger fruits, in my experiences. GL.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: MLBjammer]
#5822689 - 07/05/06 06:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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baaaaaghhhh!!! don't believe it
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: dot_com_unist]
#5822694 - 07/05/06 06:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tasmanian, Treasure Coast, Huautla\Oaxaca, PESH, PESA, Orissa India, Thai Lipa Yai....
Go with one of those from Ralphster... you wont be disappointed. 

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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: MLBjammer]
#5822928 - 07/05/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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MLBjammer said: Ralph is a spore vendor--and a very kind one at that. All cubensis are pretty similar in the buzz they produce. I have never been able to say that any difference between strains is greater than the similarities. Potency is absolutely based on the substrain of spores, regardless of the medium on which they are cultivated. Bulks and large casings will simply produce more and bigger fruits, in my experiences. GL.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: coda]
#5823682 - 07/05/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im sorry but you guys can honestly tell me you cant tell a difference between strains? Im not talking about potency, but the "onset" and types of "rush, speed effect" of different strains? For instance: My friends like my B+ for outdoor/social scenes, while they prefer my Z strain for just partying.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: FungusMan]
#5823762 - 07/05/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with you 100% FungusMan. I can definitely tell a difference between strains. For example, my Puerto Ricans have a great body load but only seem to be visual when I stare at something or see moving objects. On the flip side, my Ecuadorians have only a small amount of body load with extreme visuals. Everything looks like water colors and moves without even the slightest glance.
I have tripped well in excess of 75 times, over 28 different strains, and they were all different from strain to strain. While I do agree that they all share common characteristics, to say that they are all the same is not true. Perhaps it is your body that makes the subtle changes and not the strains, but I don't see any science behind any of these arguments.
Who cares though. Trip and enjoy yourself.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: Wronguy]
#5825168 - 07/05/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wronguy said: Perhaps it is your body that makes the subtle changes and not the strains...
Who cares though. Trip and enjoy yourself.
Good Point
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: coda]
#5899950 - 07/25/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ralphster has so many more strains than the vendor i was using! Hmm... I only use the vendor i do because i know they ship discreetly. How is he?
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whatsthestorymg said: Ralphster has so many more strains than the vendor i was using! Hmm... I only use the vendor i do because i know they ship discreetly. How is he?
discreet as well. as are all the vendors. you don't really need to worry about your package coming in a tie dyed box that says "PSYCHEDELIC MUSHROM SPORES YAYY!!!" on them
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: creamcorn]
#5900121 - 07/25/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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It doesn't make much sense to me; that different substrains have different types of 'highs'...
Isn't that kind of like saying different acid tabs have different types of highs? I mean isn't it all the same chemical that makes you trip in the first place- the Psilocybin?
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: MustardMan]
#5900363 - 07/25/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am working with a few different strains at the moment with most of my interest being in my treasure coast and Texas strains,I have a pink buffalo too but I read on here that the Thai strains give off allot of Anxiety and being the kind of guy who nearly has a panic attack every time he goes out in traffic now that im off of all my medicine that is the last thing that I need when I'm tripping.I never really heard anything about the type of feeling from the Texas strain,Does anyone have any feedback on the "feel" of a Texas trip??
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: Blutjager]
#5900891 - 07/26/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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> I mean isn't it all the same chemical that makes you trip in the first place- the Psilocybin?
No. There's psilocybin and psilocin and the ratio between them. There's also about 4-6 other chemically similar substances that contribute to the experience.
So yes, there are differences between the species and strains.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: fastfred]
#5901030 - 07/26/06 03:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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psilocybin is psilocybin. nuances are name of the game when describing them. but it all is generally the same.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: ackmess]
#5901039 - 07/26/06 03:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's fool talk. Psilocybin is not psilocin which is not baeocystin which is not norbaeocystin. There are also around 4 other unidentified psilocybin analogs which most likely contribute to potency.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: fastfred]
#5901069 - 07/26/06 04:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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agreed i dont know if this relates but tolerance for weed is comprised of the chemical structure of the cannabinoids. hence different highs different tastes. I would say that it is not so easy to say that about sillys but you got to remember that mood and setting play huge roll in any psychadelic. I grew a couple pounds and had a blast on them but I also had a super extreme trip that was out of control pushing level 5 not in a good way on fewer grams then my other trips which are usually 10 or more. Some people loved those mushrooms and a lot of people had real emotional trips so I think you just need to try them all. About as good of an opinion your gonna be able to give for cubes is are they potent or bunk. The trip is all up to them
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: JSshroom]
#5901163 - 07/26/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ralphsters is a safe, fast, and friendly purveyor of spores. I would highly recommend using his services. Tasmanians are wicked visual, B+ only gives me bodyload, Treasure Coast is a good mix, and this is consistent for me...
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Isn't that kind of like saying different acid tabs have different types of highs? I mean isn't it all the same chemical that makes you trip in the first place
I found in my LSD usage, the medium in which the LSD came on, directly affected my trip, Sugar Cubes? totally visual, Paper hits? depends on the graphic!!! (felix the cat gold, very speedy, very visual, Silver Surfer, VERY CLEAN, very visual, no speeedy, no body load, Flying Pyramid, OMFG mindfuck from hell) it's a psychadelic, it all depends where your psych is at...
but yeah, ralphsters descriptions greatly influence what I buy. And he's pretty dead on.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: Blutjager]
#5901352 - 07/26/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd like to know about the feel of texas too...
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: jeetered]
#5901367 - 07/26/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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> I mean isn't it all the same chemical that makes you trip in the first place- the Psilocybin?
does all weed give you the same kind of high??? no you can grow sativas like ak47 or durban poison that give you an uplifting high or you can grow indicas that will sedate you; better known as the couch-lock effect.
if you want something strong and visual stick to Puerto Rican, Cambodian, and Florida f+. golden teacher has been visual but colonization time for those suckers has been less than satisfying unless using liquid culture.
Mexican cubi has a very weird onset buzz but is very visual and grows in slightly colder temps also. very visual good strain, good colonization times.
also PESA is a very nice strain but colonization time is comparable to the three i recommend.
last but not least, stropharia is a very visual strain, nice looking fruits and not bad on a colonization speed.
i have most of the Thai strains and the buzz was more body than visual. aren't the visuals what we are all here for??? hope this helps you in your decision making.
p.s. i have worked with over 40 strains so i have a little knowledge on the subject, not that these folks don't but i just had to list my credentials.
Edited by thenewguy05 (07/26/06 09:20 AM)
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: thenewguy05]
#5901666 - 07/26/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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For your description I've heard Cambodians are dead on, but I can't give you personal say in the matter till a few weeks. My Cambo batch hasn't hatched yet.
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whatsthestorymg said: I'd like to know about the feel of texas too...
growing texas now... IMO, not on the visual side. body = yes. but, a good mushroom nonethe less.
now Treasure Coast... that's a good mushroom. Good visuals, not much body.
And yes this means that i agree with the fact that different cubes produce different highs.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: Oatman2000]
#5902300 - 07/26/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm.. I'll have to make an attempt at growing some treasure coast. I was thinking about what i should choose for my next strain. Right now i've got 4 jars of B+ nearly ready to fruit, and im getting ready to culture some equadorians tomorrow.
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When ralphster says "potency is extreme for a cubensis" when referring to orissa India, does he mean body or visual? NewGuy, is this one of the 40 strains you've had experience with?
Off topic: why is it when I post with quotations, it cuts the post off at the first quotation mark, and I have to come in and edit it?
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Edited by tooth (07/26/06 04:33 PM)
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: tooth]
#5902400 - 07/26/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The texas strain can be a little speedy and give you a wild rush. If you want to chill with some visuals try F+. Ralph is the only one I buy from. His spores are the best out there. Many orders and no problems with shipping or quality. Some of the other vendors are not that great.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: thenewguy05]
#5902719 - 07/26/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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thenewguy05 said: i have most of the Thai strains and the buzz was more body than visual. aren't the visuals what we are all here for???
i dont trip to hallucinate these days, i have perfected the art of the comedown and it blows any hallucination out of the water and is highly beneficial to my brain matter. i think some people around here call it 'afterglow'?
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: Omnicracker]
#5902960 - 07/26/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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> why is it when I post with quotations, it cuts the post off at the first quotation mark, and I have to come in and edit it?
Well, I would guess it's because you don't have many posts (still noob status) and are using firefox. I think it's a firefox bug.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: fastfred]
#5902983 - 07/26/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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fastfred said: > why is it when I post with quotations, it cuts the post off at the first quotation mark, and I have to come in and edit it?
Well, I would guess it's because you don't have many posts (still noob status) and are using firefox. I think it's a firefox bug.
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: MLBjammer]
#5903013 - 07/26/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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MLBjammer said: Ralph is a spore vendor--and a very kind one at that. All cubensis are pretty similar in the buzz they produce. I have never been able to say that any difference between strains is greater than the similarities. Potency is absolutely based on the substrain of spores, regardless of the medium on which they are cultivated. Bulks and large casings will simply produce more and bigger fruits, in my experiences. GL.
RALPH is the best 
200 innoculations this month not one contam.. grow logs are soon to come
AND yes there is a very NOTICEABLE difference in the trip with the different cubes I grow, I kinda wonder how people do not feel the difference? It must be a substrate thing, or maybe they did not try enough strains.... maybe even sponsors misleading people... labeling different syringes with the same spores
but YES there is a noticeable difference for me
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: Yamidude]
#5903177 - 07/26/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've got some B+ going? anyone care to give a description? The guy i used to buy from before i started my cultivation ventures only grew stropharia, so that's all i have experience with.
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B+ = A+
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5903990 - 07/27/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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discreet as well. as are all the vendors. you don't really need to worry about your package coming in a tie dyed box that says "PSYCHEDELIC MUSHROM SPORES YAYY!!!" on them
Lol
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Re: Different Strains Different Feel? [Re: autographguys]
#5904170 - 07/27/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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autographguys said: The texas strain can be a little speedy and give you a wild rush.
^^^ I agree totally. For my friend and i texans hit like a truck really intense visuals for about an hour then kind of fell off pretty quick. Still a nice 5 - 6 hour trip and zero nausea.
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