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OfflineMcShroomington
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My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin!
    #5822124 - 07/05/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Kick fucking ass!! After all this time I finally see the actual fruit of my labors. Notice I said "fruit" as a singular and not plural.

Dont get me wrong I love my pin (Named him Theone, pronounced "the one" not "the own"), I was just expecting, um... more?



Is my pinset, set?

This is 5 PF Cakes cased in 50/50+, temp at 75, hum at ~85.

Cant think of more statistical data.

Am I just being impatient and should just expect and uneven flush?
Is this unheard of?

Thanks for the help in advance


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: McShroomington]
    #5822131 - 07/05/06 12:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

what about Fresh Air Exchange?


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: Omnicracker]
    #5822230 - 07/05/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

how long has it been fruiting....
was your casing 100% colonized before you put the casing layer on?

It seems like you know what your doing but your pin formation blowz....my guess is the casing didnt receive enough moisture and lack of FAE


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: McShroomington]
    #5822252 - 07/05/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

in all seriousness, congratulations.

ive never grown so to me that is an accomplishment

my advice: keep the pin, cherish the pin, and remember it in your next grow


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: McShroomington]
    #5822287 - 07/05/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Congrats!

What kind of substrate did you use?

I'm about to case two half pint pf's of equador in 50/50.


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
    #5822313 - 07/05/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

if that DOES stay the only pin for your first flush, it might be a huge fucker, i'd clone it if it ends up being gigantic :P then again, it might just abort since it's the only guy in a lonely peatmoss desert. i know i'd commit suicide if i was the only guy in a lonely peatmoss desert... never knowing when you're going to find water or food, always hoping that someone will pop up... god i'm getting emotional just thinking about how that pin feels... i'm going to go cry myself to sleep now, good night... *CRY* *CRY*


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: McShroomington]
    #5822366 - 07/05/06 01:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

how about a picture of the rest of your case?  from that little section i might be inclined to suggest you should have let the casing layer colonize a little bit more, and that you began fruiting a little early.

i think it may also be possible your casing layer on the dry side... this is often the case when your pins form only at the edges like so... the little gap there forms that humid microclimate that you want your entire surface to be providing.

review  this thread and maybe you'll get some hints as to where you went wrong.  if after reading the description of misting, and proper moisture content you deem your casing to in fact be dry, you might want to sacrifice that loan pin and pick it (as its robbing energy and resources from other pins that could be forming) and bring your casing layer up to an appropriate moisture level, and watch your "second flush" do better :thumbup:


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5822367 - 07/05/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I would pick it. Cold shock it, and mist it so its wet.

My first casing did fruit, But I had a problem with the second. I have found that when I crush up my jars if I do it in smaller pieces then the pinset comes evenly. If you have myc chunks at an uneven height remember that is how they will grow. If it is even then it will reach the surface evenly. Moisture is key also. Remember Mushy's are 90% water so if there isn't enough water in your casing they can't grow :frown:  You could try to dunk it also. It is unusual for a casing, but I have done it. If you decide to try it make sure to let the casing drip dry after removing it from the water. :-)

Good luck and congrats on your first abort :-) You did great for a first try and It only gets easier from here!


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: malarki]
    #5822476 - 07/05/06 02:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

malarki said:
Cold shock




W-hat? Not with cube's if that's what it looks like. Especially after it's already started fruiting.


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: kristen]
    #5822535 - 07/05/06 03:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This is a highly debatable subject period. Everyone has their own opinion on these things. Cubes are Mushy's that are naturally occurring in the area that I am originally from. In this area it is natural for the temp to drop that difference over night. Speaking from personal experience and what I have found to be effective cold shocking does help. I have had more luck with cold shocking than any other tek. This is something every Cultivator has to experiment with to find out what works best. IMHO and from personal experience it works. Think about what a mushroom goes through living in temperate region (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_cubensis) in N. America Such as Mexico, Australia, and even Columbia:
http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/mexico/fahrenheit/mexico-city.htm
http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/australia/fahrenheit/canberra.htm
http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/colombia/fahrenheit/bogota.htm
If you look at these links you can see that the temp's do drop down to comparable levels as the fridge thought the year.

But that temp drop can be enough to trick the myc into thinking its the last opportunity to fruit.


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: malarki]
    #5823088 - 07/05/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well to address many questions off the top of my head and not scrolling up...

I really dont think this is a problem of humidity being too low or the casing being too dry. I had problems with that early on and fixed them. Its being humidified with perlite and supplementary cool mist which leads me to my next answer...

There's plenty of FAE.

I think the reason this is being like this is because these are PF cakes that were sliced like cucumbers in half not crumbled up, provided this uneven substrate depth along with my most likely amateur casing applications, these factors most likely compounded to give me my current "problem"

I'll mist the casing a bit but again I dont think its a problem of casing moisture content.

I've got 10 pint WBS jars, and 2 LC's cookin anyway.


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: McShroomington]
    #5823100 - 07/05/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I bet There will be lots more soon, that's just a early one


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: UnderNose]
    #5823119 - 07/05/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's funny that you gave me that link because hyphaes pinning strategy post was my bible the few days before I cased my cakes.

BTW the pin taken in the pic was from 2 days ago. Now it is considerably bigger, and still is the lone cowboy in that ghost town of a casing.


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: McShroomington]
    #5823159 - 07/05/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)


the same thing happened here, This was my first ever shroom, But I didn't name it:sad:
One pin started first. was the only one there for like 5 days, Got pretty big to.
After I picked it I noticed more pins coming up.
A few days later there was a good flush. :mushroom2:


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Re: My FIRST but unfortunately ONLY pin! [Re: malarki]
    #5823694 - 07/05/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

malarki said:
This is a highly debatable subject period. Everyone has their own opinion on these things. Cubes are Mushy's that are naturally occurring in the area that I am originally from. In this area it is natural for the temp to drop that difference over night. Speaking from personal experience and what I have found to be effective cold shocking does help. I have had more luck with cold shocking than any other tek. This is something every Cultivator has to experiment with to find out what works best. IMHO and from personal experience it works. Think about what a mushroom goes through living in temperate region (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_cubensis) in N. America Such as Mexico, Australia, and even Columbia:
http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/mexico/fahrenheit/mexico-city.htm
http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/australia/fahrenheit/canberra.htm
http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/colombia/fahrenheit/bogota.htm
If you look at these links you can see that the temp's do drop down to comparable levels as the fridge thought the year.

But that temp drop can be enough to trick the myc into thinking its the last opportunity to fruit.




It was highly debateable in 2003. Most Cubensis come from much higher temperature climates. I'm betting you have a sub-standard fruiting climate that is causing you problems, and a cold shock is just making up for it. Many of the old hands would agree it is worthless and/or detrimental, and my experiments proved the same years ago.


Edited by kristen (07/05/06 01:54 PM)


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