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Redstorm
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: Gillette]
#5821769 - 07/04/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I go out but have no idea how to do anything pertaining to females. I had the same girlfriend from my freshman year of highschool until my junior year of college, so I kinda missed out on the whole single thing.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: Redstorm]
#5821771 - 07/04/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: I've been on two dates since December, both of them being in February. Let's not forget that this girl stopped taking phone calls from me sometime after the second date for some mysterious reason.
I'm having quite a hard time.
Sounds more like you're having a very soft time.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5821774 - 07/04/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You could say that.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: Redstorm]
#5821777 - 07/04/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: I go out but have no idea how to do anything pertaining to females. I had the same girlfriend from my freshman year of highschool until my junior year of college, so I kinda missed out on the whole single thing.
But, you're a Shroomery mod now. Prestige and women should be arriving in your life immediately because of this.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5821783 - 07/04/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: I go out but have no idea how to do anything pertaining to females. I had the same girlfriend from my freshman year of highschool until my junior year of college, so I kinda missed out on the whole single thing.
But, you're a Shroomery mod now. Prestige and women should be arriving in your life immediately because of this.
Yeah, I had to kick them all off my porch to get into my house when I came home tonight.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: Jim]
#5821787 - 07/04/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jim said: thats not how I was brought up... but if it works go with it...
I just personally wouldn't do it...
That's my issue...how I was brought up (conservative Christian) vs. how I have come to believe/live my life...
Causes conflict, but only if I don't go with the flow...
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: MOTH]
#5821790 - 07/04/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I value the morals i was brought up with...
I was never told drugs were bad, but I was also never encouraged to use them....
-------------------- Use the Fucking Reply To Feature You Lazy Pieces of Shit! afoaf said: Jim, if you were in my city, I would let you fuck my wife.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: Gillette]
#5821792 - 07/04/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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As far as the "obligated" thing is concerned, I don't think it sounds far fetched. In my observations of women (which is probably just as wrong as it is right), I have noticed a "hostess" complex (IE, a willingness to please, especially members of the opposite sex) is quite common in most women. It normally causes them to do things they find unpleasant just to please the person.
For example, you feel "obligated" to go out with men when they ask you to go out. So you do go out, even when you know it wont be enjoyable or have no interest in the person.
Perhaps it has to do with how women are viewed in society, but the cause is beside the point.
Also, I re-read your first post again and this line stood out at me...
"For once I'd like to date someone that I actually want to date. Like some guy that I've had a crush on forever, to actually want to date me, that would be cool."
Did you have someone in mind? Its been my personal experience that two people who really like each other can beat around the bush so much that neither of them knows the other likes them. Men can be just as intimidated to ask someone on a date as women can, especially if it is a woman he cares for. If it IS the case that you have someone in mind, my advice to you would be to sit him down in a room, alone, and talk to him. Tell him how you really feel about him and see if he feels the same way.
It was a friend of me and my wife that did it with us. He sat us down in a room and said "OK, you like her and she likes you, so TALK ABOUT IT." Then he left. Since it was already out in the open anyway, we didn't feel bad about telling each other how we felt and we have been inseparable ever since.
I guess what I am trying to say is don't wait on him to ask you to date. He might think you are out of his league, especially if he really cares for you and finds you beautiful. You might be surprised to learn how intimidating women can be if you truly like them enough to be interested in a long term relationship.
If for some reason you find out he doesn't have feelings for you, well, at least you cleared that up and you can move on with your life. Or, hearing that you have feelings for him, he might actually think about a relationship he might have previously thought impossible (again, feeling you are out of his league or something akin to it).
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5821886 - 07/04/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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CherryBom said: Men are stupid.
You want to be lied to? Get a boyfriend.
Not all of us guys are assholes.
good point to be made there randal
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: CherryBom]
#5821894 - 07/04/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: I don't feel like "playing the game" anymore. I just want to be myself.
That's how you win the game. When you stop caring about it.
very true. fuck the game, the only way to win is to QUIT
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: Jim]
#5821899 - 07/04/06 11:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are two primary circumstances which occur within The Game which are controlled by the principles of infatuation. You can seek infatuation or you can be the subject of infatuation. Neither of these circumstances have led me toward any sort of desirable relationship. The only romantic experiences of my life that i still cherish have happened completely unexpectedly and were not the result of playing The Game. They were those few and far in between times where i won The Game without even having to play it. This is the third circumstances where the infatuation is mutual. I like to think these romantic miles stones occur just as often if you choose not to play The Game but i would only be lying to myself.
I only play The Game for those rare times i dont have to play The Game, well, that and sex.
Honestly, i hate The Game. I even hate dating. I like laughing, I like playing, I like Cuddling, I like teasing, I like Sharing, I like talking, I like sex, I like warmth, I like smiling. I like Being with someone. I hate The Game, but man, those completely indescribable rare tastes of Love; It almost makes me not hate The Game..... almost.
Just remember, you're not alone, not even in those 500km.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: ZippoZ]
#5821920 - 07/04/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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and now a note in general.
this whole damn dating thing is out of fucking controll, Maybee im infiltrated with beliefs of yesteryear, but it seems like half of the people out there just want to get laid.
many of the other people on the dating circut are in it beacuse they cant live without someone else, always having a boy or girl friend because they do not know how to live with out one.
Then there are the people in relationships that are just plain fucked, and should break up before someone gets pregnant, because they both know its not going to last and are just in it for their own selfish reasons.
with that being said, and me saying that everyone in here is so damn jaded....
There is still somthing to be said for the wonderous concept, feeling, emotion and being of love and togeatherness.
there is hope out there. I highly doubt all of us are going to end up lonely and alone. Think about how much better it will be after all of the times it didnt work out.
Gillette, dating is a bitch, to find someone that you feel worthy, and to find someone that feels the same is a tough thing. many people just pick a mate on a hunch, and holy shit we have a %50 mairage divorce rate!
think about it many people have allready had children and gotten divorced by 23. So what if it takes time to find the right person for you? atleast it will be right.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: ZippoZ]
#5821931 - 07/04/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zippoz said: this whole damn dating thing is out of fucking controll, Maybee im infiltrated with beliefs of yesteryear, but it seems like half of the people out there just want to get laid.
I really can't blame people for skipping the relationship and just wanting to get laid. Relationships are difficult and they rarely ever work out. I haven't dated a girl yet that I would consider spending the rest of my life with. I guess I'm picky. 
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zippoz said: Then there are the people in relationships that are just plain fucked, and should break up before someone gets pregnant, because they both know its not going to last and are just in it for their own selfish reasons.
Watching those relationships is like watching a train wreck waiting to happen.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5821953 - 07/04/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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im not blaming anyone for wanting to get laid, not at all. I would like to point out that if the values of 50 years ago were in place AIDS would not be as large as it was today. im refering to the sexual values where sleeping around would be considered taboo...
Im not advocating this, but its a point to be made that everyone fucking everyone is not working out that well. hence why im doing my best to abstain from sex.
and yeah some relationships are just so damn bad to watch.... my across the street neighbors are married with a kid, the father is always yelling at everyone i feel so bad.
Also people bringing children into loveless marriages is fucking horrible. I just dont think that the human race has proved itself intelligent enough, in light of recent developments, to allow itself to continue having sex all of the time. lol.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5821957 - 07/04/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I got married around the same time as three other girls. All of them are divorced now and extremely bitter...
Love is so simple, I really think the longing to be "attached" to someone without working on yourself causes a lot of problems.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: ZippoZ]
#5821960 - 07/04/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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people were out of control in the 50's... and they never had those kinds of 'values' in africa, where AIDS is the #1 problem....
-------------------- Use the Fucking Reply To Feature You Lazy Pieces of Shit! afoaf said: Jim, if you were in my city, I would let you fuck my wife.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: Jim]
#5821964 - 07/04/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was refering to the cultural american post war values.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: ZippoZ]
#5821974 - 07/04/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the problem is that people are so selfish nowadays. They expect these perfect catalogue-like lives. And when they realize they can't obtain that or that it requires a lot of work...they don't have the fortitude, the maturity, or the will to do it.
Edited by RandalFlagg (07/04/06 11:45 PM)
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: ZippoZ]
#5821977 - 07/04/06 11:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zippoz said: im not blaming anyone for wanting to get laid, not at all. I would like to point out that if the values of 50 years ago were in place AIDS would not be as large as it was today. im refering to the sexual values where sleeping around would be considered taboo...
Im not advocating this, but its a point to be made that everyone fucking everyone is not working out that well. hence why im doing my best to abstain from sex.
and yeah some relationships are just so damn bad to watch.... my across the street neighbors are married with a kid, the father is always yelling at everyone i feel so bad.
Also people bringing children into loveless marriages is fucking horrible. I just dont think that the human race has proved itself intelligent enough, in light of recent developments, to allow itself to continue having sex all of the time. lol.
No, the values of 50 years ago only stifled and agitated peoples natural sexual instincts. It was the absence of CONDOMS and people with BRAINS enough to use them that caused the spread of AIDS and early pregnancy.
There is nothing wrong with trying to get laid. Of course, going on a date with someone with the soul purpose of having sex and not a continued relationship is quite misleading. Ethically, you should let the other person know this. Of course, relaying this information probably destroys any chance of getting laid in the first place.
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Re: Warning: dating rant inside [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5821991 - 07/04/06 11:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're exactly right...I work with ladies who are always bitching about their relationships .many people make the committment to marriage heedlessly, without considering what LIFETIME COMMITTMENT means.
If you can't live with forever, then you shouldn't get married...I have been married for 3, almost 4 years now, and I am just now grasping the concept of what this committment truly means. Luckily, I have an open-minded husband or else I'd be screweed!!
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