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Using Leaf mould
    #5821252 - 07/04/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I bought this premade soil which I want to use for casing which has peat moss, coir, perlite, vermiculite, leaf mold or mould.. manure(fertilizer), tree/plant sap extract or something..

is it safe to use? as a casing?


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Re: Using Leaf mould [Re: rtek]
    #5821343 - 07/04/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You want to put MOLD on something you are trying to maintain sterility on, not to mention the perlite, nutritious manure, and "something" else.

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Re: Using Leaf mould [Re: kristen]
    #5821370 - 07/04/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I mean t to say like leaf compost or mould.. sorry.

of course I will be putting this stuff in the pressure cooker for an hour..i was maily concerned if it's gonna let the mycelium flourish or slow it, or stop it.


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Re: Using Leaf mould [Re: rtek]
    #5821688 - 07/04/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

no comments? please, i really would appreciate your suggestions...


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Re: Using Leaf mould [Re: rtek]
    #5821888 - 07/04/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You don't want to use perlite for your casing. And I would not want to put anything into my casing that has mold on it. You are spelling mould where are you getting that?

If you are looking to put more than just one thing into your casing and want to use peat moss and are looking at that combination I would consider these things. The bottom layer you want to soak up extra moisture *verm works great for that. On top you want to hold moisture and protect against contams. The peat moss and verm would be good for that. Peat moss has nutrients (which it sounds like what you are trying to accomplish) and holds moisture very well, the coir and verm would help w/ that also. But If I was you I would use peat and verm 60/40.

Personally with mine I spawn to poo (great nutrients and gives a deep substrate) and then I case w/ verm and coir. It will give you nice yield and larger mush rooms. IF you have a horse farm around I would stop in and ask if you can have some.. It makes good fertilizer (at least thats what they will tell you- trust me its a normal thing for people to do they wont think anything of it) and they always are willing to get rid of it... IMHO it's worth the stink.. *remember the more nutrients when growing the more potent the shrooms :smile:

Personally (sorry to say) i would toss the mix- not worth risking *unless you have nothing better to do or have enough shrooms to experiment w/ it.  you would def have to pasturize it though..


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Re: Using Leaf mould [Re: malarki]
    #5822084 - 07/05/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

perlite in a casing is ok. as we know, water is quickly wicked into the air from perlite, this is why we use it for humidification. in a casing this can be a beneficial thing but you need to keep up on your misting as it doesnt retain its moisture long, it gives it up rather quick. the amount of perlite in a mixture such as this is probably so small its negligible anyway.

"mould" is how they spell mold in those other countries that speak english besides the USA... remember those?

leaf mold (or mould) is not a "mold" at all, but is composted leaves. it is not particularly high in nutrition and retains moisture well. it should work just fine in a casing.

all that aside, your casing mix will work. its not the best choice, because as mentioned it contains a bit of nutrition (the manure, coir, and whatever the tree sap business is are all nutritous) and can be more susceptible to contamination. how susceptible it is in fact depends a lot on the ratio of those ingredients. if its mostly peat and verm, which i suspect it is, i'll wager you'll do just fine with it. again, its not the best choice, but it certainly has appropriate moisture retention properties and sounds like a good consistency for a casing. if you're in a pinch, use it, i bet you'll do fine with it, just understand its slightly more risky than some of the other choices.


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Re: Using Leaf mould [Re: creamcorn]
    #5822726 - 07/05/06 07:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No need to get snippy about it that's why I asked. We are all here to learn aren't we? Thats why it all say's IMO and PERSONALLY. I know what I have done and what has worked for me. I am opening myself to ridicule and always looking to do better also. SO constructive criticism is always good to here but there is no reason to be hostile about anything to anyone on here. When you do that all you do is scare away the people that need help b/c they are afraid of being mocked. I never said I was and expert!


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