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Mushrooms and the bible / judaism?
    #5820686 - 07/04/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I am intererested in whether use of psychadelic mushrooms is prohibited or encouraged in the bible.

I have heard two theories,
1) Psilocybe Muchrooms are the manna from heaven that the isrealies ate while in the desert
- small, white and round,
- comes with the dew
- mannure from animals and the dew would be an enviornment for them to grow
- manna provides a test to show whether the isrealies are in gods law


2) Psilocybe Mushrooms are the fruit of the knowledge of the tree of good and evil

- Mushrooms are also called a fruit,
- Mushrooms resemble a tree, and sometimes grow under conifers (I got this from a different website)
- People who have done mushrooms and psychadetlics talk about their 'eyes being opened',
- You can even see this in the eyes of people who have done alot of mushrooms.

I have used Psilocybe mushrooms approximately 5 times, and have not used them in 4 years. During this period I had also wondered if Mushrooms were the 'fruit' of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Just as they fit your description of Manna they may also fit this description as well...


So I just wanted to get your thoughts about this, and how it can tie in with the manna theory.

I am also feeling like I want to take a mushrom trip soon, I am 31, my mom just recently passed away about 4 months ago and my dad had passed about 4 years ago. I am Jewish and am still in the period of morning, I don't know if it would be considered a good time to do the mushrooms now, my life feels like it is on fast forward and I feel like I want some sort of spiritual trip, I just don't know if this is the right time and also am looking to understand my other questions about understanding mushrooms spiritual role.

Does the bible give a prohibition against magic mushrooms (or other psychadelic plants), if they are the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil wouldn't that be the ultimate or first prohibition?


I'm a little confused about this reconciliation,


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Re: Mushrooms and the bible / judaism? [Re: chrion]
    #5820710 - 07/04/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think that it is here for a reason and it is a natural thing. Manna does mean Spiritual nourishment of divine origin.


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Re: Mushrooms and the bible / judaism? [Re: chrion]
    #5820725 - 07/04/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The mushrooms will show you good and evil, maybe not in the form you would expect,

For me when they come on, I usually suffer the evil, obnoxious visuals, that are annoying, they resemble the slim, scum sucking, nature of evil,

but once I've been erked long enough, they usually settle in, and I usually get more visuals with clarity, sharp, precise, and very magical, this is the good side,

Its usually consistent to this formula, come on :evil:, come down [good]


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Re: Mushrooms and the bible / judaism? [Re: chrion]
    #5824724 - 07/05/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

adam eating the apple from the tree represents the birth of free thought


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Re: Mushrooms and the bible / judaism? [Re: chrion]
    #5824815 - 07/05/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch...displaytype=all

Search these. This topic has been questioned ad nauseum.


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Re: Mushrooms and the bible / judaism? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5826861 - 07/06/06 07:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i have also wondered about the possibilty of mushrooms having "spiritual" origins. my wild theory is that mushrooms may have helped us to develop language, you know, abstract thinking. also i believe that mushrooms can help bring poeple together, i find they do help us understand ourselve and our contexts in a clearer way, again i feel that this supports the language argument. if anyone can throw more of this around thatd be cool,
peace, sorry about your loss


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Re: Mushrooms and the bible / judaism? [Re: thirdeyetruth]
    #5827348 - 07/06/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Dear thirdeyetruth -
Technical advice. Obviously you are responding to chrion's loss, not MarkostheGnostic's. So, when you reply to someone's post you must click on their reply button.  :wink:


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Re: Mushrooms and the bible / judaism? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5827858 - 07/06/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

doooooope, this shits confusing


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Re: Mushrooms and the bible / judaism? [Re: thirdeyetruth]
    #5830461 - 07/07/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I suggest not eating mushrooms if you are uncertain. :smile:

Condolences.

The show must go on...


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