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How big/how long can mycelium spread?
    #5820390 - 07/04/06 05:18 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

If I were to take one of my cakes and put it in a giant tub of brf/verm, and it was not full colonized, would the myc fully colonize the tub? And if so, would I have a forest on my hands?

If myc just keeps on spreading until you give it the go ahead, then all i would need is a shit load of brf/verm to have the biggest yield I've ever had.


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Re: How big/how long can mycelium spread? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5820401 - 07/04/06 05:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

until it meets a contamination.

it grows as large as it can.

when spawning, brf/verm is a very poor choice for a bulk substrate.
try using horse poo or coco coir.

and one cake won't do very well.

you'll need 1/4 as much spawn (colonized cakes or grains) as bulk substrate for it to work. 1/10 is possible, but at that low of a
ratio, contaminations have a long time to set in and grow.

there is no easy answer.
don't you think someone else would have already thought of it if there was?

keep on learning.


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Re: How big/how long can mycelium spread? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5820409 - 07/04/06 05:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

in theory, sure it will.  the largest living organism on earth is a gigantic underground mycelium network.  however in the actual practice of home cultivation, and especially if using brf/verm, your tub will contaminate or dry out long before the mycelium gets a chance.  what you're speaking of is basically bulk spawning, where colonized grains or crumbled brf cakes are added to a bulk substrate to expand the total amount of substrate you're dealing with.  but generally it takes more than one cake depending on what you want to do.  its usually done in a 1:4 ratio (1 part colonized crumbled cakes or grain spawn to 4 parts bulk substrate), and things such as horse manure, compost, or coir are used as the bulk substrate because they colonize very quickly in this manner.  by using a spawn ratio like that and a quickly colonizing substrate, you can get it done in time before contams or moisture become an issue.  search around for monotubs, they use the basic idea you speak of but with the method i speak of. :smile:  :thumbup:


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Re: How big/how long can mycelium spread? [Re: creamcorn]
    #5820424 - 07/04/06 05:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

jinx.

you owe me a joint.
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Re: How big/how long can mycelium spread? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5820757 - 07/04/06 07:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Alright so i could take a fully pooped out cake (I have around 6 cakes starting to colonize but I'm going to fruit before I try this bulk substrate thing) and put this fully pooped out cake in someting with about 4 jars of sterilized substrate, have that fully colonize, take that giant substate, and put it in a thing with about 12 jars worth of substrate and have that colonize, and I could just keep repeating the process, and once I fruit, I'll have a VERY large yield.


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Re: How big/how long can mycelium spread? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5820766 - 07/04/06 07:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yes, in theory. however, it would get contaminated after a few transfers... people have contams just with their spawning and casing... and that's just one transfer


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Re: How big/how long can mycelium spread? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5820793 - 07/04/06 07:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

There isn't any point in theorizing about this stuff, beatnicknick. Generations of cultivators have already worked this basic shit out so that you and I don't have to. Follow the bulk teks, or innovate on your own after mastering their strategies.


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Re: How big/how long can mycelium spread? [Re: faceyneck]
    #5820814 - 07/04/06 07:28 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

An endless supply of myc would be nice. Could you imagine one of those 200L rubber maid bins full of spawn? You just dip in for some whenever you need it, and add more nutrient/moisture from time to time.


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