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I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me.
    #5819070 - 07/04/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Im almost always in good health and spirits. but these few past days somthing aint right at all. I was at a festival over the weekend, and it was 95 most all day i sat in the shade drinking a few beers.

Saturday night i was so exhausted i couldnt even go to the main stage to see any of the shows. Sunday i was wiped out, but that can be expected. Monday and tuesday was when i noticed somthing was wrong. I woke up yesterday and today with a weird feeling in my left arm, like it was overstreched or somthing, like a numbness shooting through me.

This and the lethargy, i dont know whats up. Im actually going to go see a doctor tomorrow, god help me i dont have insurance and this is going to get pricey.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819079 - 07/04/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

are you drinking enough water?


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: goobler]
    #5819100 - 07/04/06 08:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, im drinking alot as a matter of fact.

i figured that i was just worn out from drinking all damn weekend in the sun...., but somthing like that would have gone away by now....


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819104 - 07/04/06 08:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Mono.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819113 - 07/04/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You're making it sound as if your heart can't keep up. I'd say go to the doc right away and have it sorted out. Abstain from drugs and alcohol, and don't drink or eat too much or too little.

We don't want a fourth moderator heart attack :crazy:

I'd say if you're going tomorrow, see if you can go today instead. I don't want to alarm you but theres no point in waiting and it might be trivial or very important.

We love you man :heart: off you go!


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Asante]
    #5819119 - 07/04/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

man, im 22 if im having a heart attack.... wtf.

But in reality, yeah my heart was somthing i was considering, with the whole left arm feelings.

also i have been completely exhausted with muscle weakness all around.

thing is i dont have a doctor, all i used to do is just go to the primary care center, but was when i had insurance, and i cant really afford that anyomore...

not that i have any issue with going there and running up a bill that ill pay a few months down the line. ...

ill give them a call and see what the dealy is


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819130 - 07/04/06 08:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

goto the ER if you feel the need


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819132 - 07/04/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was 30 when I had mine. Age doesnt matter much, especially if you're part of a high risk population (drug user).

I don't want to alarm you but it sounds to me like your heart is pumping insufficiently. You could be retaining water. (sometimes I gain 10-15lbs of water weight in a weeks time which is really unhealthy, and I have pee pills to drain it off, this being side effects of my cardio medication)

Don't freak out, no need for that as it probably will blow over, but in case it won't its best to have it checked. Even if its increased heartload byu water retention you'll probably get a pee pill, piss up to a gallon in five hours and be done with it :smirk: If the problem is dehydration/electrolyte related you get to drink a bunch of isotonic sports drinks instead (perhaps also a gallon LOL)

Weigh yourself. If you know what you usually weigh you can rule out hydration issues. over five pounds short or too much usually means its a hydration issue, which still needs care as electrolytes may be involved. Do you pee much or little, and is it dark or colorless? If you're not squeamish you can dip your finger in the stream and taste it: If its salty as fuck you are probably dehydrated but if its sweetish and hardly salty at all it might be fluid retention or an electrolyte shortage. I can even discern whether it is potassium or sodium i'm lacking, and medicate with the corresponding foodgroups :wink:

Don't take chances when it comes to health, thats my advice.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Asante]
    #5819143 - 07/04/06 08:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The symptoms you describe are CLASSIC HEART ATTACK SYMPTOMS. Don't put off seeing a doctor. Go to a quick care facility. That should be almost as quick as an ER and much cheaper.

Many, many people ignore symptoms and later find out that they had mild heart attacks. They often DON'T hurt that much and the pain's not always in the chest.

You could also have a heart arrhythmia. Take some aspirin, that's your best bet if you're not going to get treatment immediately.

Don't fuck around with this. If I knew you I would be driving you there myself even if I had to tie you up.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: fastfred]
    #5819145 - 07/04/06 08:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Kinky.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: fastfred]
    #5819162 - 07/04/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

His dot is red - he went offline so he probably is on his way. Theres no need for panic (counterproductive, especially if there in fact IS a need to panic), but its wise to act right away.

We're not doctors, but do recognise signs of things that may need urgent medical attention.

I really HATE the inhuman lack of proper medical care in the USA and elsewhere. I could go to the ER by ambulance and have emergency surgery for appendicitus, and even if it turns out it was just a silly stomach cramp from eating a ton of icecream I'd still leave the hospital without having paid as much as a cent, even for haspital food.

Zippoz and many members here would be racked by bills, and this causes them to hesitate to seek help when in fact you might need it.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5819163 - 07/04/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

man..... wtf....
i better not be having a heart attack.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819169 - 07/04/06 09:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Seek medical attention.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819178 - 07/04/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Dude take the aspirin right away (just the regular dose). It's saved lots of people's lives. If you're feeling really bad chew it up. People have saved their lives by doing that on the way to the hospital.

Left arm pain is a CLASSIC heart attack sign. It can even be in the right arm. Women and younger people often have different signs than older people.

Check for other symptoms... sweating, faintness, clammy skin, paleness, etc.

It's probably just an arrhythmia, but that needs treatment too. Could be lots of things stomach bug, anything. But don't fuck around with heart attack symptoms.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5819185 - 07/04/06 09:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i called the care center, they didnt have much to say except come in and lets see whats wrong....

in the end itll probably cost me a grand or so. i can swing it, and blow off the bill if necissary...

fuck i just dont want to deal with the reality of it....


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: fastfred]
    #5819193 - 07/04/06 09:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Fastfred is right about the aspirin, but don't let it delay you.

You named the thread:

I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me.

and not a few of us agree that that may be the case.

If its the really bad stuff it might feel OK now and suddenly return and pin you down to the chair you're sitting in, or the pavement you're walking on. This happened to me.

That's the less-likely worst case scenario. Time to rule that out.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: fastfred]
    #5819198 - 07/04/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Here...

"Aspirin can reduce the risk of death if taken as directed by a doctor as soon as a heart attack is suspected. The FDA says that as little as one-half (160 mg) of a regular-strength aspirin tablet reduces the risk of death by up to 23 percent if administered when a heart attack is suspected and continued for 30 days thereafter. Aspirin taken during a suspected heart attack can also lessen the damaging effects of the heart attack."


The American Heart Association and other medical experts say the body likely will send one or more of these warning signals of a heart attack:

Uncomfortable pressure, fullness, squeezing or pain in the center of the chest lasting more than a few minutes.

Pain spreading to the shoulders, neck or arms. The pain may be mild to intense. It may feel like pressure, tightness, burning, or heavy weight. It may be located in the chest, upper abdomen, neck, jaw, or inside the arms or shoulders.

Chest discomfort with lightheadedness, fainting, sweating, nausea or shortness of breath.

Anxiety, nervousness and/or cold, sweaty skin.

Paleness or pallor.

Increased or irregular heart rate.

Feeling of impending doom.


Not all of these signs occur in every attack. Sometimes they go away and return. If some occur, get help fast.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Asante]
    #5819199 - 07/04/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i have a long history of odd phyical problems and doctors either not finding anytshing wrong, and or not being able to do anythign about it.

also i recently stopped drinking, (sunday) and i usually drink quite a bit, so my blood is probably a bit thicker than usual...

we shall see.


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819209 - 07/04/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

i called the care center, they didnt have much to say except come in and lets see whats wrong....

in the end itll probably cost me a grand or so. i can swing it, and blow off the bill if necissary...

fuck i just dont want to deal with the reality of it....





The doom scenario isnt a reality, all we have is reason for concern.
Get someone to drive you over to the center, say a friend or neighbor.

Pry yourself away from the 'puter, and calmly take action.

If you are overtaxing your heart through water or salt balance there is near-immediate relief for all these things.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819224 - 07/04/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you are sure you arent host to an alien spawn, right? just wanted to rule that out


if you are weak and tired your blood sugar may be out of whack as well...

go get checked out, its the responcible thing to do for yourself


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Asante]
    #5819231 - 07/04/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Good luck with everything man...

I think I've also felt that arm numbess you're talking about.  It only happens to me right when I'm waking up or if I'm in the middle of sleep.  It happens in both of my arms and it's like a cramp/tingle/numb...it's really uncomfortable but I can usually stop it by massaging right near my armpit, or changing the way I'm laying.

Have you done anything recently to bring on this fatigue?  I'm curious...

Get well soon! :shineon:


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Newbie]
    #5819264 - 07/04/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

> i recently stopped drinking, (sunday) and i usually drink quite a bit, so my blood is probably a bit thicker than usual...

That could well be the problem. Aspirin will thin your blood. At the very least you need to take some aspirin and have someone with you in case you drop.

If it's a minor heart attack then you probably won't feel bad enough to go to the ER, if it becomes major then it will be too late.

FYI CPR advice has been changed to 2 breaths / 30 compressions.

It's probably nothing, but those are famous last words. Everyone says that until they drop. Make sure you're not alone and good luck.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: fastfred]
    #5819664 - 07/04/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well i just got back, god i love how quick that place is, ill hate the bill though.

heres the skinny, blood counts and kidney function, electrolites and what not all in normal levels....

but what i had the most concern over, and the one test i wanted, liver function wont be in untill tomorrow.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819666 - 07/04/06 11:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

glad to hear you are ok

maybe you're just tired


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819668 - 07/04/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Good to hear man. Good luck with the liver one.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5819695 - 07/04/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

im never tired like this never, im exreemely hyperactive do psychotic degrees!


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819772 - 07/04/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hope you figure out what's wrong, Zippoz.  :heart:


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819858 - 07/04/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So I'm assumimg they ruled out the worst. That's great news! :laugh: Here's hoping they'll find the problem,  :thumbup:


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: MOTH]
    #5819883 - 07/04/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

If your really tired and weak it could be anaemia.

I Had a blood count of 4, when its supposed to be 15 in someone my age. I was nakered after walking up a set of stairs, pale as a ghost, had absolutely no energy what so ever.

Needless to say I was || close to death through suffocation.


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    #5819903 - 07/04/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Consume some cayenne!


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    #5819904 - 07/04/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Did they do any cardio tests on you? That would surely have come up, huh? Anyway, I hope it's just some exhaustion from the hot weather alcohol combo. Keep us posted, will ya?

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    #5819907 - 07/04/06 12:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
So I'm assumimg they ruled out the worst. That's great news! :laugh: Here's hoping they'll find the problem,  :thumbup:




actually no, if it was anything it would be my liver, so im still on edge.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819915 - 07/04/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'll trade ya livers anyday


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: goobler]
    #5819922 - 07/04/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well, we shall see
i went there a year ago, perhaps it was 2 ago... with some physical problems. nothing was wrong, as a matter of fact i think that im usually pretty healthy

but from time to time shit goes weird, but they never find anything.....
lets hope that this time is the same.


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819947 - 07/04/06 01:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you take milk thistle?


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819952 - 07/04/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Cayenne pepper exerts a number of beneficial effects on the cardiovascular system. It reduces the likelihood of developing arteriosclerosis by reducing blood cholesterol and triglyceride levels. Cayenne also reduces the platelet aggregation and increases fibrinolytic activity. Cultures consuming a large amount of Cayenne pepper have a much lower rate of cardiovascular disease. Cayenne has been used as medicine for centuries. It was considered helpful for various conditions of the gastrointestinal tract, including stomachaches, cramping pains, and gas. Cayenne was frequently used to treat diseases of the circulatory system. It is still traditionally used in herbal medicine as a circulatory tonic (a substance believed to improve circulation). Rubbed onto the skin, Cayenne is a traditional, as well as modern, remedy for rheumatic pains and arthritis due to what is termed as a "counterirritant" effect. A counterirritant is something that causes irritation to a tissue to which it is applied, thus distracting from the original irritation (such as joint pain in the case of arthritis). Many people consume lots of hot peppers in tropical climates as the heat will induce perspiration, which actually helps a person to cool off. Cayenne's primary chemical constituents include capsaicin, capsanthine, beta carotene, flavonoids, and vitamin C. Cayenne causes the brain to secrete more endorphins. It is considered thermogenic, meaning it can "rev up" metabolism and aid in weight loss. Cayenne also improves circulation. Cayenne helps to relieve pain, not only due to its endorphin enhancing properties, but also when diluted and used topically it helps to block the transmission of substance P, which transports pain messages to the brain.




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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: goobler]
    #5819955 - 07/04/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

no i dont, although i have started drinking coffee after long nights ever since that research came out.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: goobler]
    #5819957 - 07/04/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

milk thistle is good too


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #5819960 - 07/04/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yep

I love the stuff


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: goobler]
    #5819966 - 07/04/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well i suppose that ill go pick some up.
im guessing that its a suppliment that comes in a gell cap or pill form?


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5819968 - 07/04/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

get some cayenne extract while you are there... it's good combo


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #5819979 - 07/04/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah? do you have any more info on that stuff?


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5820041 - 07/04/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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basically it's the best herbal stimulant known, exceptionally good for the heart, blood circulation, and digestive system, and is synergistic with many herbs. It is known to normalize blood pressure and stop internal bleeding. It is antibacterial, also purifies the blood. It is good for the kidneys, spleen, pancreas, lungs and heart. It helps other herbs work more effectively due to improvement in blood circulation and digestive secretions. But overall it's very good for the heart, and overall.


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: goobler]
    #5821601 - 07/04/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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goobler said:
you take milk thistle?



Goobs you are one smart motherfucker! I like you and your down-to-earth views.:heart:


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Re: I think that there might be somthing seriously physically wrong with me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #5821605 - 07/04/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You're pretty goddamned smart, too Shroomyism! I like you alot!! You're neat! :grin: :heart:


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