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WIZOLZ
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Christian Martyers Last Prayer -
#5818938 - 07/04/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wanted to post and share this painting I found awhile ago. It is called "The Christian Martyers Last Prayer - Jean-Leon Gerome"
It is has been the focus of my attention lately and has really moved me in ways which I hope will move some of you. It is quite a profound and powerfull painting, ecspecially because of the sad reality that this actually happened to these poor people during the advent of Christianity. Persecuted for sharing a message of truth among a degenerate, unethical and savage populace. What more can be evident of humanities unbelievably creul history.

If this picture doesn't inspire compassion in your heart, then perhaps it is time you reflect on the world you are living in and why you even exsist. I would also like to know how others here feel about this piece and perhaps share some historical lessons about these times.
Good Day
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: WIZOLZ]
#5819318 - 07/04/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, the power of hindsight...
Something tells me that it is much more likely that you are a descendant from someone in the mob that is seated than those huddled in the sand, and I think it might have something to do with that lion... 
 Peace.
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If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: WIZOLZ]
#5819469 - 07/04/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't worry, the Christians got back at the "degenerate, unethical and savage" during the witch trials.
It's estimated that 1500 Christians were martyred by the Romans, whereas the upstanding Christians executed at least 40,000 "witches," most of whom were midwives and healers.
The balance between the holy and the sinners was restored!
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Veritas]
#5819525 - 07/04/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know what the big deal was with these Romans. Lions gotta eat too.
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: WIZOLZ]
#5821142 - 07/04/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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At those events I believe my teacher tole me the effects of killing them did exactly what the romans didn't want, it inspired many others because of such intense believe in this religion called christianity, it attracted many others to open up to it, so instead of scaring people away it lead them to it. Their deaths did not go without purpose.
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: LuNaTiX]
#5821210 - 07/04/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have a ridge back, I'm sure he'll attack anything that moves...
http://www.poolesville.biz/dog.htm
I also have a dog that will give you a kiss and won't harm a fly...
Edited by Schwammel (07/04/06 07:52 PM)
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821285 - 07/04/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Exactly allot of Christians back then thought that if they showed their devotion to god as they thought they saw Jesus do then they would be excepted into heaven. They basically wanted to die like that to show God.
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my god doesn't say jump...
and I don't say
how high
Edited by Schwammel (07/04/06 08:13 PM)
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821322 - 07/04/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are two positive things in this whole thing:
1. Lions kill you before they eat you, they snap your neck or cut your artery, they don't like a moving dinner
2. Roman empire dissapeared just like Nazi empire and all other evil ocupators, they never last.
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821325 - 07/04/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Schwammel said:
my god doesn't say jump...
and I don't say
how high
have you ever spoken or seen your god, or is he just an abstract thing?
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
#5821352 - 07/04/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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have you ever spoken or seen your god, or is he just an abstract thing?
well,
I don't really know what my god would say about being an abstract thing.
he doesn't exist
but we talk all the time
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821362 - 07/04/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Schwammel said: have you ever spoken or seen your god, or is he just an abstract thing?
well,
I don't really know what my god would say about being an abstract thing.
he doesn't exist
but we talk all the time
I'd hate to pray to a god that doesn't exist
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
#5821368 - 07/04/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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then don't pray
I don't
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821410 - 07/04/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see my God every day 24 hours a day. God is everything.
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You can pray and thats a good thing. You are still talking to god in one way ofr another.
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all the time...
but I don't prey...
I am god. why should i pray to myself?
Edited by Schwammel (07/04/06 08:50 PM)
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821443 - 07/04/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Exactly!!! You are made of God. So when you are praying you are really talking to your inner self which all of us have abandoned. So when something does happen it feels like an act of God but really comes from your inner self.
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Quote:
your inner self which all of us have abandoned.
Speak for yourself. I've spent all the time I've saved by staying out of religion on developing a relationship with my inner self.
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Veritas]
#5821457 - 07/04/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Exactly!!! You are made of God. So when you are praying you are really talking to your inner self which all of us have abandoned. So when something does happen it feels like an act of God but really comes from your inner self. """
thats it....
""""""""""" Speak for yourself. I've spent all the time I've saved by staying out of religion on developing a relationship with my inner self. """"""""""
we aren't talking about religion
Edited by Schwammel (07/04/06 09:08 PM)
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821468 - 07/04/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes. But your inner self is God. You actually can find alot about your inner self through religion. Just don't go to church cuz they stray away from the hidden meanings. Pick up some of the Nag Hammandi texts and listen to what Jesus has to say ha ha. Thats like basically what Jesus says to do is look to your inner self for every answer you need. You don't need teachers. So yea I'm contradicting myself but i don't care.
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soo who is jesus...
i think tahts where we part?
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821512 - 07/04/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jesus was the son of God. And so is everyone else. He just carried in him the knowledge. We all have that knowledge that Jesus had but we never look to are inner self like we should. We have gotten to wrapped up in false beliefs that the world has conditioned us to. And now most of us are blind to the truth.
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""""Jesus was the son of God. And so is everyone else. """"
exactly...
waht kinda bible thumper are you? Not too many of your kind around......
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5821533 - 07/04/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I cant tell if your sarcastic of not.
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not too many people can move freely between both worlds,,,
you have
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Schwammel]
#5825164 - 07/05/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think its important to have respect for the different religions, tragedies and lessons of the past, even if you deny their lifestyle and beliefs. Respecting anothers differences and helping them better understand where things might not fit and also accepting the things which do...would help avoid situations like this.
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: WIZOLZ]
#5825219 - 07/05/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem. 2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
Which definition of respect are you recommending? I do not think that it is possible to manufacture or force regard and esteem for belief systems which you see as baseless and non-productive.
If you mean we should avoid interference with such belief systems, I agree. So long as adherents to said beliefs do not interfere with me or the laws of my country, I will not interfere with their right to practice their beliefs privately or in groups of other believers.
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Re: Christian Martyers Last Prayer - [Re: Veritas]
#5825390 - 07/05/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You must use the same online dictionary as I do (alt)...You didnt include:
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Willingness to show consideration or appreciation.
both seem valid, and your right, one must be carefull they do not accept untruth, nor share it, so then, it's up to you how you decide by which basis you make your choices. Though, I find it difficult to accept that any religion or belief system can be missing some form of productive influence. Isn't that the reason they were propagated initially? To help humanity? Who then shifted the message? Or were people so inclined to allow themselves to be controlled that it didnt occur to them they were being... mislead and alienated ?? Far be it for me to deny one's pride in uncanny beliefs, I've tried. Though, I tend not to make fear my welcome mate...
Im just a humble traveler caught in a race I didnt want to enter, but the scenery is to die for.
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Edited by WIZOLZ (07/05/06 09:24 PM)
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