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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: Asante]
#5821493 - 07/04/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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TEchincally, no one is full anything, unless ya a full african, since dats where Our roots are homiez.? I can say the closest" full " american, is a fucking native american, but seriously WHO THE FUCK CARES?
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: Asante]
#5821654 - 07/04/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The EU is bad news. They've been wanting to make a western bloc for years.
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DinahTheCat
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#5821838 - 07/04/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Total control of what, europe? its called eu for a reason.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: Asante]
#5823019 - 07/05/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Umm you kinda leave out the people who have been americans for thousands of years, as well as the asians who worked at the railroads.. In fact some people of any race are "full" americans.
Id leave out most all of the Asians no matter how long theyve been here because they dont embrace common American values.
One example is the church.. They may be catholic or christian but they have their own all Asian churches and only give to Asian causes. Asian clubs, Asian Radio, TV, Asian this or that. As a whole, Asians arent doing what they should to integrate into American culture
They realy should try less hard and make less sacrafice for their children so they all have the chance to grow up to be fat and lazy like the rest of us Americans. Pffft, who wants to be a doctor anyway.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5823184 - 07/05/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What about a native american, who was converted early on in the founding of the USA, he would embrace "american religon", dude techinicallly what you are saying doesnt apply to the constitution, I mean most of our founding four fathers werent even christian, Thomas Jefferson for example was deist.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5823476 - 07/05/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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America is a word made up and defined by Americans..
Indians were here first but the idea that they are "Americans" just dont hold.
Indians are the only group I feel have the right to build Indian comunities. I havnt been out of the country much but Ive never herd of a "little America" being built any other place in the world.
Here in LA we have a Little Everything. Areas of town where nothing is in english and everyone is foreign.
I know Im being a dick about all this but thats just the way its got to be.. I just dont believe that other cultures should have ever been free to thrive in America..
They want to come her, they need to be more American.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5823887 - 07/05/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Extremely paranoid propaganda designed to make you throw your vote away for some schizophrenic third party that doesn't have any chance of winning.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: Luddite]
#5823892 - 07/05/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Social Darwinism at work. Adapt or die.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: Luddite]
#5825281 - 07/05/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't believe I haven't seen any shocked and outraged canoodians. I mean, wtf? It's set to be the American-Canadian merger.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5825932 - 07/05/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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GabbaDj said: America is a word made up and defined by Americans..
Indians were here first but the idea that they are "Americans" just dont hold.
Indians are the only group I feel have the right to build Indian comunities. I havnt been out of the country much but Ive never herd of a "little America" being built any other place in the world.
Here in LA we have a Little Everything. Areas of town where nothing is in english and everyone is foreign.
I know Im being a dick about all this but thats just the way its got to be.. I just dont believe that other cultures should have ever been free to thrive in America..
They want to come her, they need to be more American.
Do you know who AMERIGO Vespucci is?
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: downforpot]
#5826950 - 07/06/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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wasnt he a map maker and explorer? oh and dude GabbaDj, you mean that they need to eat more fast food, become extremely obese, become more materialistic, give into government propaganda, except fear-tactics played out by government, and die a soulless meaningless life that didnt start with greed, but ending and began with greed upon entrance to the "home of the free"? Yes i think that is what you mean, and you should really except the fact that the united states is not what our founding four fathers sought it out to be, where big brother is just around the corner, where opinion is made fact, and where we "americans" give up more and more freedoms in effect to more and more fear created by our government? Im fucking moving to canada
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5827072 - 07/06/06 09:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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DinahTheCat said: Im fucking moving to canada
from wikipedia:
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The Independent Task Force on North America was chaired by Canadian politician John Manley, a former Deputy Prime Minister.
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The three nations that make up the NAU would either significantly diminish or else erase remaining trade and travel restrictions with each other, making entry into their countries from the other two nearly as easy as crossing state or provincial lines within each of said countries (as is already the case within the EU).
IOW, canada is not going to be a place to run from this.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: debianlinux]
#5827108 - 07/06/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well let me rephrase where I might try to hide from this: New Zealand, or Siebra?
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5827540 - 07/06/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im just saying that its time to stop letting them bring their country onto our soil..
People come to America to leave their own country.
We should have one english language, no signs in foreign languages aloud, everyone here has got to learn english or they dont get to drive, vote, purchase land or open businesses.
Learning the language is just the start. Churches, cultural events, and so on should be banned. In my area we have ALL asian churches, All Armenian malls, All Israeli festivals and a growing supermarket chain that caters to all hispanics.. Just walk in and not one American, nobody speaks english and everything is written in Spanish...
I watch the clock at work all the time and count the hours between times I deal with an American, or at least someone without a foreign accent. I can go through 50 customers back to back before I find one that speaks english.
I see first hand how in my area we have lost all of our Americanism by letting soo many foreigners turn different parts of our city into areas that dont resemble America in any way.
Yes, its hard to define what Americanism should mean but It should include not letting restaurants and stores open up that no American can read the menu or any of the signs.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5828659 - 07/06/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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GabbaDj said: we have lost all of our Americanism by letting soo many foreigners turn different parts of our city into areas that dont resemble America in any way.
if Americans are doing it in America then it resembles America in every way. it's easy for me to take your counterpoint when i live with trees, rusted pickups and buildings that have been standing prior to the revolutionary war.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: debianlinux]
#5828929 - 07/06/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Foreigners MAKE and STAND for what America is, can you not see that Gabba? America is (or was more or less) hope and a new life for many, who are yet to set out from opression of their own government. In the 1800s it was mainly the Europeans, the Irish in mass quantities fleeing from famine, as well as others who sought out in hope for a better life, or a better life for their family. I would love to live in LA, which is culturally diffused and diffusing constantly, expanding our horizons in the culinary arts, as well as the visual arts and music. I can understand how it may come to you as appalling when one is faced with such chaos such as unknown or different things as well as people ironically doing better in America than "truer" americans that are beggars, without evening knowing the country's language that they live in. Parts of your city as well as many american cities that are strictly limited to certain ethnic orgin correspond to the people within those areas as a way to slowly readjust to their enviroment and have their own part in a slowly diminishing captialist society, in essence, to take part in the "American Dream".
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5829001 - 07/06/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, your stance reminds me of "Bill The Butcher" , or Willima Poole, who was protrayed by Daniel Day-Lewis, in Gangs of New York. He is a nativist new yorker who depises the Irish and their "ill causing" political persuance, as well as their plagueing of American soil.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5829707 - 07/06/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most of my rantings come from the fact that all too often I feel like the foreigner in my own country.
I shouldnt have to sort through the pamphlets at the DMV for the one written in English or press one for my language.
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Parts of your city as well as many American cities that are strictly limited to certain ethnic origin correspond to the people within those areas as a way to slowly readjust to their environment and have their own part in a slowly diminishing capitalist society, in essence, to take part in the "American Dream".
More like the opposite. These ethnic areas are growing in size and numbers and arent used as a way to adjust to American Society but more for a way to never have to adjust.
Ever watch Spanglish? A line from that movie bugs me and sums up my point exactly. "it was only after several years of living in America that we first felt like we were living in a foreign country.
The quote was in reference to when the lady had to step out of her neighborhood to look for a job.
Not that long ago a school opened up in Los Angeles with a curriculum that focuses not on American history and American curriculum but instead teaches Mexican Curriculum, Mexican History. Since the school is almost 99% hispanic all classes are taught in spanish because "many of the children have a hard time understanding English". The school is founded by two Hispanic activists with shady pasts who have made many Anti-American statements on both radio and TV.
Its just getting out of control.
Anyway, I do love the cultural diversity and the art, music, food and everything that comes with living in Los Angeles and it might surprise you to know that I have very few American friends. Most are Mexican, my closest friend right now is Saudi. His mom loves me and invites me over all the time so not to sound cliche but Ive got lots of foreign friends .
I did however grow up in Minnesota from the time I could walk till I was 18. About 70% of the men in my family are Military, even my Mother was a Navy Nurse and my Grandmother is a Retired Army Lifer. Soo I come from a real proud to be American family and grew up in the heartland with the rusted trucks, fishing lakes and trees and all the traditions that have come with trick or treating, Christmas, easter, county fairs and respect for your neighbor that comes with being American.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5830008 - 07/06/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I do see what you mean, but it just seems inevitable that it is the way it is, but in a sense, new york city as well as parts of california had more large amounts(compared to population) of immigrants and foreigners in the 1800s, meaning alot of asians working for gold during the gold rush in california, and alota irish folks in new york, so is it really that different? I think its all due to America's policy of capitalism, i mean look at walmart, they took advantage of the whole siuation, hiring illegal immigrants as well as treating them and other even citizen employees like shit.
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Re: North American Union - End of the US as we know it. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5831239 - 07/07/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Umm you kinda leave out the people who have been americans for thousands of years, as well as the asians who worked at the railroads.. In fact some people of any race are "full" americans.
Id leave out most all of the Asians no matter how long theyve been here because they dont embrace common American values.
One example is the church.. They may be catholic or christian but they have their own all Asian churches and only give to Asian causes. Asian clubs, Asian Radio, TV, Asian this or that. As a whole, Asians arent doing what they should to integrate into American culture
america has a consumer culture,who would want to integrate to that? whats wrong with being free to preserve your own culture and way of life? assimilation is what colonialists and imperialists do to the populations they subjugate, after burning the books,destroying the history,and slaughtering any that don't submit. thew whole point of america is to have the freedom to live anyway that you want as long as it doesnt harm others without persecution.
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