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    #5815245 - 07/03/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)





Could someone help me figure out what this is.. I am unsure if it is an immature Blushing Amanita (Amanita rubescens), Panther Amanita (Amanita pantherina), or a Sharp-scaled Lepiota (lepiota aspera).

I found it in upstate NY (about 70 miles north of NYC) in a forest consisting mostly of oak and maple and tall coniferous trees (not sure what kind). it doesnt seem to change color when bruised or when flesh is exposed, and the spore print is pending..


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Re: id request [Re: trauma47645]
    #5815334 - 07/03/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: id request [Re: trauma47645]
    #5815410 - 07/03/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think it's an amanita, it has the characteristic stem base of an amanita. I don't think it's a panther though. Definitely not something to eat, though I don't think that was your purpose. Nice pics though.


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Re: id request [Re: xmush]
    #5815415 - 07/03/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well the blushing amanita (Amanita rubescens) is a choice edible.. i was hoping someone could help me narrow it down a little more


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Re: id request [Re: trauma47645]
    #5815452 - 07/03/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

While it's an Amanita, it's not one of the species you named.

If it were A. rubescens then it should be bruising reddish, and your photos don't seem to show that.

If you want a good idea of how many Amanitas there are out there, check out this page. Keep in mind that Dr Tulloss doesn't have all the species there are on his page.


If you want to narrow it down to subgenus, then you need to determine if the spores are amyloid or not. Start by making a spore print (on glass or aluminum will probably work best). Do it overnight to get lots of spore dust. Scrape the spores together into a pile, and put a drop of Tincture of Iodine on them (you can get Tincture of Iodine at a grocery or drug store in the first aid area). Amyloid spores will turn dark blue to black, inamyloid will just stay the same brown color as the Iodine. If they're amyloid then your mushroom is in subgenus Lepidella, if not then subgenus Amanita.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: id request [Re: ToxicMan]
    #5815478 - 07/03/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

hmmm wow this is gonna be a harder ID than I thought... Thanks for the help toxic.. if anyone has any other idea on this species please chime in.. could someone also explain what the difference between amyloid and inamyloid is?


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Re: id request [Re: trauma47645]
    #5816525 - 07/03/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Amyloid and inamyloid refers to the color the spores change when placed in contact with a certain chemical (can't remember the chem right now). You can google it.


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