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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12608454 - 05/22/10 07:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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jokefox said: i got it from somewhere in canada except you need to buy 6 fucking plants to get anything shipped so like 1 salvia plant and 5 strawberry plants later lol
but ya 10$ per plant and pay your own shipping
i think thats good its less then i payed for the plant forsure
Due the fact our vendors also sell salvia cutting, salvia selling is not allowed, trades only- of course on the forums, in PMs w/e you want.
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emeryg89 said: MOD EDIT: Sorry mate, but selling of clones is no longer permitted since BBB and othe sponsors sell them. Please keep to trades.
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ayahuasquero
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12608997 - 05/22/10 10:38 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I'm glad you finally got them and you can spread the love in Canada. "Fleadh" is correct in the respect that you shouldn't make promises until you get a "green thumb" for growing salvia. When I first got started, I had many die on me too, as I didn't know how to listen to what the plant needed, and liked/disliked in her diet.
It took awhile with trying different nutrients by different companies, and also different growth mediums. Through my trials and errors, I know to stay away from General Hydroponics, as its just bullshit .. It's too salty, check the PPM's others here will agree. Most people who grow M.J. prefer General Hydroponics as their nutrient of choice because its cheap. Well, cheap nutrients is like fast food, would you eat it? If not, don't feed it to your plants then! Treat them with the same respect as you would treat yourself, or even better for that matter. People who grow M.J. just need a quick veg, and a flower, and they smoke off their product, and so on, so they can care less (except for those really experienced growers who want to go deeper into the depths of growing, and try better products) what nutrients they use.
So, I didn't know shit about any of these when I began. I never knew I had to flush out the grow medium to rid it of those salts that have built up of over the many feedings. So always keep that in mind .. Flush!! ... That's the first thing...
Then you need a good grow medium.. Try Canna Coco .. I started with Fox Farm, and that's no good for Salvia, the peat in that product makes your root base turn into a log, and its so dense, the plant suffocates, and there goes your plants .. Roots love oxygen! Fox farm couldn't assist with that, that was the second problem I ran into... So I changed to Canna Coco, those problems went away!
The last thing you need to also be aware of is root rot! Canna coco is well draining, so water won't just sit there, and be stuck like it did with the Fox farm mixture. I ran into root rot quite a few times, and that just kills your plant... I'd have to take cuttings before that disease killed the entire plant, and start over from there. So get yourself some Hygrozyme to convert all that undigestible nutrients into food that the plant can eat, as well as break down all the dead roots that are sitting there. This product as well as the Trichoderma that's added into Canna Coco, will do its best to prevent root rot.
In respect to fertilizing, don't over do it. You may go the route of foliar spraying, and I highly recommend using VHO by advanced nutrients. Just don't go past 900PPM, lots of people who were using 1200PPMs of the product made the plant shift to flowering. I personally didnt have that problem at 1000PPMs, I didnt want to chance my luck either, so I kept it at 1000PPMs. I didn't care for fish emulsion, as it stinks .. its full of nitrogen, but it stinks. If you want to administer fertilizer via the roots, you may use Roots Excelerator by House & Garden, which is the best you can get in fertilization via roots.. and amazing product!
If your plants will be inside, in a shaded area, you can get Liquid Light - Gold series, as well as Penetrator - Gold series (It's now called Saturator), by Dutch Master, which will allow your plants to take in more light, thus allowing for more growth at an accelerated pace. You must combine both products together when you mix them.
So all the good products I mentioned have proven to work excellent in my book. Those companies had the time, and less restrictive countries of origin for them to do their trial and error work, to let us, the consumers know which products work. So you can show your Canadian pride and stick with Advanced Nutrients =), and/or Try Canna (Holland based), House & Garden (Holland Based), or Dutch Master (Aussie based), and see what works for you. Before I forget, also, pls stay away from PH down by General Hydroponics, that's shit too. It's not concentrated, and you will use most, if not all of the bottle trying to PH down a 55 gal res. Advanced Nutrients PH down is the best in my opinion, its super concentrated, a few drops per gallon will do you well.
It's time for breakfast now... Good luck man!
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: ayahuasquero]
#12609774 - 05/22/10 01:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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bbb doesent sell cuttings
no vendor does mabye you guys need to look at there sites again
and i never read that long post
and also salvia is a plant plants arent hard to grow my cat is taking care of my plants for the last week ive been in kelowna
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12610102 - 05/22/10 02:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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jokefox said: bbb doesent sell cuttings
no vendor does mabye you guys need to look at there sites again
Maybe you should be less of a D Bag about it. Avalon Magic Plants sells live plants. So maybe you should check the vender sites before you make false claims that you don't know anything about.
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jokefox said:
and i never read that long post
You probably should, there is a lot of solid grow advice that a cocky noob like you should follow.
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jokefox said:
and also salvia is a plant plants arent hard to grow my cat is taking care of my plants for the last week ive been in kelowna
Not all plants are the same. Some plants have a steeper learning curve than others. Salvia, for most people, is like that. Instead of acting like a tool, you should take people advice, at least give it a chance.
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: Big L]
#12610112 - 05/22/10 02:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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jokefox said: bbb doesent sell cuttings
no vendor does mabye you guys need to look at there sites again
Maybe you should be less of a D Bag about it. Avalon Magic Plants sells live plants. So maybe you should check the vender sites before you make false claims that you don't know anything about.
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jokefox said:
and i never read that long post
You probably should, there is a lot of solid grow advice that a cocky noob like you should follow.
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jokefox said:
and also salvia is a plant plants arent hard to grow my cat is taking care of my plants for the last week ive been in kelowna
Not all plants are the same. Some plants have a steeper learning curve than others. Salvia, for most people, is like that. Instead of acting like a tool, you should take people advice, at least give it a chance.
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: ayahuasquero]
#12610162 - 05/22/10 03:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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ayahuasquero said: It took awhile with trying different nutrients by different companies, and also different growth mediums. Through my trials and errors, I know to stay away from General Hydroponics, as its just bullshit .. It's too salty, check the PPM's others here will agree. Most people who grow M.J. prefer General Hydroponics as their nutrient of choice because its cheap. Well, cheap nutrients is like fast food, would you eat it? If not, don't feed it to your plants then!
This is nonsense. Human food is infinitely more complex than plant food, which is a simple NPK value. You can't really fake having a certain % of pure Nitrogen, Phosphorous, or Potassium. It just IS that %, period. "Nutes is Nutes" as they say at the hydro store near my house.
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ayahuasquero said: Try Canna Coco .. I started with Fox Farm, and that's no good for Salvia, the peat in that product makes your root base turn into a log, and its so dense, the plant suffocates, and there goes your plants .. Roots love oxygen!
Canna Coco = great product
Fox Farm should ALWAYS be amended with either Light Warrior (their product as well) or a bunch of perlite (this is what I do when I do soil, works excellent)
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ayahuasquero said: Roots Excelerator by House & Garden, which is the best you can get in fertilization via roots.. and amazing product!
I use Roots Excelerator as well, it is a good product.
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ayahuasquero said: So you can show your Canadian pride and stick with Advanced Nutrients =), and/or Try Canna
Advanced Nutrients is super hyped, over-priced bullshit IME... They advertise on that Showtime show Weeds for fucks sake. Two dudes will be talking in a grow room and there just HAPPENS to be an Advanced Nutrients poster, in the grow room, directly behind them.
Most of that stuff you mentioned is all hype man. You might think it works better, but it really works about the same. It's the extras like sugar metabolizers like Sweet add that really make the product more potent/taste better.
People think just because they're paying more for a company like Advanced Nutrients or Dutch Master, or House and Garden (ridiculously overpriced Amsterdam company) that they're getting a better product.
Fact is, that I've tested a lot of them both growing AND with my hydro meter, and they are all about the same. "Nutes are Nutes" once again....
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ayahuasquero
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: theMallacht]
#12610282 - 05/22/10 03:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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My PPMs are always way higher with General Hydroponics 3 part. I don't know the process of creating nutes, that's where the whole chem thing comes into play, but IME, Canna has shown lower salt content/PPMS than with General Hydroponics.
I agree, House & Garden is over priced, but that one product works great!
Light Warrior was the grow medium that I was using.
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: ayahuasquero]
#12610320 - 05/22/10 03:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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send me a link to a live salvia plant from a vendor or shut the fuck up
second off im know newb with plants and herbs and such ive been gardening with my grandmother and working with trees with my grandfather ever since i could walk
i do agree with me not making promises before there ready though that was a alittle drunk excitement and im pretty sure if your READ it it says taking reservations ,
when it comes to plants i dont need advice its not hard look outside i see plants everywhere if you cant grow a plant then mabye its you that has the learning curve problem
and by the way in the 'wild" they spread from plants falling over and branches touching the ground and rooting
if you cant root a plant thats natural instincts are to root then you are a fucking retard
i think you old guys are getting all worked up becuase im so much younger then you and im not a fool
and p.s dont be all mad that im selling them for only 10 bucks some people like me dont care about money and rather share excitement to people
so how bout you stfu and leave me and my bubble alone...im tired of it getting popped by shroomery members that are fucking cranky becuase they cant grow some fucking mint
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12610338 - 05/22/10 03:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: Big L]
#12610346 - 05/22/10 03:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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did you read this
Shipping restrictions Please check if this product is legal in your country. We cannot ship this product to New Zealand, United States, Finland, Australia, Israel, Switzerland, Estonia, Hungary, Brazil, Canada, Japan, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, Turkey, Reunion Island, Croatia (Hrvatska), Latvia and Lithuania.
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12610352 - 05/22/10 03:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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and there not even a sponsor
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12610353 - 05/22/10 03:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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A vendor sells Cuttings, therefore you can't. What is so hard about that.
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: Big L]
#12610360 - 05/22/10 03:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey buddy the link you gave me doesent ship to canada or usa and there not a sponsor
are you retarded go take your pills
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: Big L]
#12610362 - 05/22/10 03:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12610368 - 05/22/10 03:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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MYYYY BADD they are a vendor

but they dont ship to canada so wouldent that mean i could still sell them since no one else sells them to canada
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12610388 - 05/22/10 04:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: Big L]
#12610390 - 05/22/10 04:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apology accepted.
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: Big L]
#12610405 - 05/22/10 04:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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i never said sorry to you , you fucking piece of shit
im sorry i took it to far
now i did apologize
i just dont get why i cant sell them to canada since no one else is
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12611143 - 05/22/10 06:40 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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jokefox said: i never said sorry to you , you fucking piece of shit
im sorry i took it to far
now i did apologize
i just dont get why i cant sell them to canada since no one else is
Wow, you do realize that you are proving more and more how much of a joke...fox, you truly are...
Big L is sittin here killing you with kindness and you straight up call him a piece of shit?
He is correct, and merely following the rules.
You are completely retarded, probably not even 18, and I hope that a perma-ban is in your near future.
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Re: The Salvia Divinorum Live Plant Marketplace [Re: jokefox]
#12611165 - 05/22/10 06:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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jokefox said: second off im know newb with plants and herbs and such ive been gardening with my grandmother and working with trees with my grandfather ever since i could walk
i do agree with me not making promises before there ready though that was a alittle drunk excitement and im pretty sure if your READ it it says taking reservations ,
when it comes to plants i dont need advice its not hard look outside i see plants everywhere if you cant grow a plant then mabye its you that has the learning curve problem
and by the way in the 'wild" they spread from plants falling over and branches touching the ground and rooting
so how bout you stfu and leave me and my bubble alone...im tired of it getting popped by shroomery members that are fucking cranky becuase they cant grow some fucking mint
You haven't even GROWN it yet and you're talking shit on others that can't grow it. Salvia does die extremely easily and I bet you won't even have the balls to post up your dead ass plant when you kill it. 
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