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trauma47645
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psilocybe coprophila?
#5813491 - 07/02/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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does anyone know if psilocybe coprophila is active? I am 99% sure i have located this species but I am unsure of its value as an active species.. As both guides I have describe it as a species thats not recommended for consumption, and the mushrooms i have located fit the description of psilocybe coprophila to the T... so I was just curious if anyone knew anything more about this species
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shroomydan
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Re: psilocybe coprophila? [Re: trauma47645]
#5813511 - 07/02/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, they are not active. Good for improving your ID skills though.
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Re: psilocybe coprophila? [Re: shroomydan]
#5813740 - 07/02/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Definitely inactive. There has been some debate over the subject, but mostly from hopeful shroom-heads.
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mjshroomer
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Re: psilocybe coprophila? [Re: trauma47645]
#5813849 - 07/02/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi Shroomey Dan,
Here are some images of P. coprophila by Arthur and Stevens. Used with permission.,
 
They are a non-active speices, often erroneously clasified by straight mycologists and some Law Enforcement officials who took some short courses on mycology and listed them or wrote of them as possibly hallucinogenic or sometimes hallucinogenic, or related to hallucinogenic species, many have warnings regarding them as such.
All misinformation because at the time of the early guides, the world of psilocybian mushrooms was just being written by scholars and students in school who relied on a couple dozen articles which led them to believe they were hallucinogenic.
mj
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Zen Peddler


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Re: psilocybe coprophila? [Re: trauma47645]
#5814465 - 07/03/06 01:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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it and Ps.argentipes and Ps.merdica are very common in australia and as MJ says are often mistaken for active species.
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mjshroomer
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Re: psilocybe coprophila? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5814528 - 07/03/06 01:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psilocybe argentipes is a psychopactive shroom Blue Meanie. IT was P. collybiodes form argentina which is in Austra;lia and is not psychoactive.
The P. argentipes is common in japan,
here are 4 images.
 
 
mjshroomer
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I2ancid
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Re: psilocybe coprophila? [Re: mjshroomer]
#5815683 - 07/03/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why does it contain Psilocybe in its genre specifications?
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mjshroomer
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Re: psilocybe coprophila? [Re: I2ancid]
#5815931 - 07/03/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are over 100 non-active Psilocybes in the genus Psilocybe.
And more than 120 which are psilocybian.
In my 2000 paper with Guzman and Gartz, we havee 115 Psilocybes which were active.
The new list will provide more than about 130 species now known to contain psilocine/psilocybin.
As I noted above, the species was errorneosly placed in/and grouped it with some of its known hallucniogenic cousins.
Fir instance:
Stamets (1978, Psilocybe Mushrooms and Their Allies) reported that: Comments: This mushroom readily fades upon drying and the margin loses its translucent-striate appearance. Some strains have been reported to be hallucinogenic, though weakly so. See also P. augustispora, P. subviscida and P. merdaria.
18 years later, Stamets (1996) wrote in his revised comments: Does not produce psilocine or psilocybine. [Excerpted:] some strains have been reported to be slightly, although weakly, active. Guzmán (1983, 227) suggests that analyses by Repke and Leslie may have shown a positive eresult from a mixed collection. No other reports of activity are known to me. See Also P. augustispora, P. subviscida and P. merdaria.
So it is not a psychoactive species.
mj
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Zen Peddler


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Re: psilocybe coprophila? [Re: mjshroomer]
#5818772 - 07/04/06 03:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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My mistake MJ - i put the wrong name there. Thanks for the correction.
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