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kranked
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Seeing green (pics included)
#5811049 - 07/01/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The pictures below are of 4 pf-tek jars, about 5 days into incubation. They were inoculated with liquid culture, b+ specifically. Obviously, they are contaminated, and normally I wouldn't even bother posting these pictures even in the contamination forum. But, what's bothering me is the fashion in which they were contaminated. Each of the four jars displayed the exact same pattern of growth. Long stripes, similar to how mycelium liquid cultures colonize a jar. I thoroughly sterilized the syringe I used to extract and inject the liquid culture. Leading me to believe that airborne spores etc. contaminating my syringe were not the problem.
The only two liquid cultures that were successful out of a batch of six were the two b+ jars, one honey and one Karo. The growth was snow white and wispy, and very explosive. Although it barely lasted 24 hours. Was what I injected indeed mycelium? I don't see how it could have been anything else.
As you can see, my luck with liquid cultures is very hit and miss, and inoculating jars directly with spores has not provided me with any results. I can't narrow down my problem, and for a n00b who just wants to see some bloody white mold colonize a jar or two this is very frustrating. This was my third attempt at the pf-tek. The first two attempts didn't grow. This one contamed. Any ideas, suggestions?


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Edited by kranked (07/01/06 10:27 PM)
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Snaggletooth
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: kranked]
#5811058 - 07/01/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is a very good example of LC contam,
I use bags, so when it dose happen I dont see that.
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: kranked]
#5811074 - 07/01/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I bet ur liquid culture was contamed. U get any successful jars from it?
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: SubGen1us]
#5811156 - 07/01/06 11:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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throw that shit out
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: Atheist]
#5811189 - 07/01/06 11:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow u got the mean green real real bad.
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: SubGen1us]
#5811245 - 07/01/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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No they all turned out the same. Out of my six LC jars, only two grew, the b+. I made another two more b+ LC's on two separate occasions and they also failed to grow. I can't figure it out and am getting to the end of my rope here.
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kranked
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: kranked]
#5811253 - 07/01/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm going to sterilize the living shit out of a syringe and inoculate a fresh jar with the same LC to see if I can narrow down the source of the contam.
I still don't get it though, the growth in the LC looked exactly like mycelium. Snow white, wispy, it's fucking weird.
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: kranked]
#5811287 - 07/02/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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so dose the mycelium of the mean green, I think
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kranked
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5811299 - 07/02/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Snaggletooth said: so dose the mycelium of the mean green, I think
Well, that is just fucking spectacular. I'm going crazy over why my LC's are failing.
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: kranked]
#5811304 - 07/02/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try malt, dextrose, and a pressure cooker.
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: TheFish]
#5811310 - 07/02/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheFish said: Try malt, dextrose, and a pressure cooker.
Thanks for the idea, I'll look into that. I am curious though, is the malt/dextrose mixture more nutrient dense? Different kind of nutrients?
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: kranked]
#5811377 - 07/02/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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cant say but it is said to be the best LC. mabey for clarity. Yes I have had the LC woes myself. A thick ball of mycelium that is bacterially contamed. Mean green is white at first then the spore discharge is green. You need to start over from spores. then make an lc and run 1 jar. then try it. youll be able to tell if you syringe is contamed. unless you have agar which would show you faster.
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: JSshroom]
#5812785 - 07/02/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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How did you make the LC ? What ingredients ? did you PC it? I use Honey water and it worked almost every time. do you use Polyfill/Tyvek ? Does your spore syringe gives the same result ? it might be the cause of all the contam ? BTW: you said "Although it barely lasted 24 hours" what lasted the growth in the LC or in the BRF jar ? anyway good luck.
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: Yefet2000]
#5813874 - 07/02/06 10:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yefet2000 said: How did you make the LC ? What ingredients ? did you PC it? I use Honey water and it worked almost every time. do you use Polyfill/Tyvek ? Does your spore syringe gives the same result ? it might be the cause of all the contam ? BTW: you said "Although it barely lasted 24 hours" what lasted the growth in the LC or in the BRF jar ? anyway good luck.
Pic of my LC a week after I used the myc in a pf-jar...

1 tbs honey (clear honey) Steam sterilized in pot with lid. No polyfil or tyvek, just a band-aid over the hole. I'm testing the same syringe tonight, I hope thats not the problem, it could mean bad news for a shroomery sponsor. The growth in the LC barely lasted 24 hours, and as shown above was mean green after all.
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: kranked]
#5815214 - 07/03/06 09:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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maybee it's your spore?
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Re: Seeing green (pics included) [Re: Oatman2000]
#5820343 - 07/04/06 03:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe, my new LC seems to be doing ok. I'll know in another day or two if the problem was the spores.
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