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E alternatives
    #5809600 - 07/01/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone tried any of the legal ecstasy products like Trip2nite? Do any of them work or are they all a rip-off?


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Bravo]
    #5809642 - 07/01/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

they're all ripoff, none of it is going to give an E-like experience.
2-CB is sort of like ecstasy but that's not legal  :grin:


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Bravo]
    #5809815 - 07/01/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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BZP and TFMPP..those two combined




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Re: E alternatives [Re: Bravo]
    #5809946 - 07/01/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I am curious what a combination of a combination of BZP/TFMPP and methylone would be like.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5810218 - 07/01/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I had about 8 trip2nite caps and a few drinks, went on some go carts and had the felling of the blow up fase of X but other than that no other common effects.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: ACME]
    #5810221 - 07/01/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Oh yeah and later that night and the next day my joints were killin me.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Bravo]
    #5811775 - 07/02/06 06:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Although I have never done E, I would imagine a good helping of calamus extract or blue lotus extract or a combination of the two would be a good E alternative. Calamus is very warm and tingly with slight visual and audio psychedelia but will never take one above a ++. Blue Lotus feels like a combination of pot and opium with a good sensual body buzz. Thats my suggestion.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5811796 - 07/02/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Happy Caps are quite cool, although you gotta eat like 5 to get anything


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Re: E alternatives [Re: indica]
    #5811817 - 07/02/06 07:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

hmmm they sell calamus root at my local health food store(same place I got hulled millet and organic brown rice flower as well :P) maybe even have blue lotus...I'm gonna have to check it out!(I actually searched for it when I was in hs but gave up on the search and haven't even considered it even when seeing it...I guess I just assumed it was bogus)


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5811850 - 07/02/06 08:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Blue lotus is mainly a hypnotic mild sedatated feeling, for me at least. Some say it feels kinda empathic like ectascy, but i doubt onen will relate to it more than that. Calamus is only used to relieve pain


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Re: E alternatives [Re: DinahTheCat]
    #5811851 - 07/02/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well that i know of


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Re: E alternatives [Re: DinahTheCat]
    #5811852 - 07/02/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've heard calamus provides a euphoria with mild hallucinations(I think thats what I read anyways) I'm gonna see if theres an entry on wikipedia


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5811861 - 07/02/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"Calamus or Common Sweet Flag (Acorus calamus) is a plant from the Acoraceae family. It is a tall perennial wetland monocot with scented leaves and rhizomes which have been used medicinally, for its odor, and as a psychotropic drug."

"In antiquity in the Orient and Egypt, the rhizome was thought to be a powerful aphrodisiac. In Europe Acorus calamus was often added to wine, and the root is also one of the possible ingredients of absinthe. Among the northern Native Americans, it is used both medicinally and as a stimulant; in addition, the root is thought to have been used as an entheogen among the northern Native Americans. In high doses, it is hallucinogenic."


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5811867 - 07/02/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well the word is hallucinogen...I don't think hallucinogenic is a proper word


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5812387 - 07/02/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Erowid's entry on Calamus isn't too promising. Read some of the personal experiences. Some of them just threw up for a while.
http://www.erowid.org/herbs/calamus/


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Re: E alternatives [Re: razorbladeshoes]
    #5812426 - 07/02/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I can personally attest to the positive affects of calamus. One thing to remember is that when extracting you should use the highest proof alcohol you can find, preferrably grain alcohol. I would not use isopropyl or methanol or any of those due to the possibility of poisonous residues being left in the end product (which I have experienced first hand). It is a psychedellic stimulant used by the northern plain indians for hunting.
I have experimented with approximately two pounds of calamus (home extracted). The first experience was short lived but great. I was smoking tobacco out of a hookah and added some extract which while usually very harsh out of a peice was chilled and cooled significantly by the hookah, very enjoyable. I felt very warm and euphoric and went outside to the porch near the train tracks to have a cig. I told my girlfriend that there was a train coming and we went to blockbuster. The drive was magnificent the trees were very alive and swirling and the sensation of being a passenger in a moving vehichle was amazing. The most powerful experience I had was with 2 ounces of extracted material. I was smoking cannabis when I put my peice down and lied down. I was having an out of body experience of going through a psychedellic tunnel, this was proceeded by a magnificent red firework that spread across my vision. Aside from that experience I would never rate the calamus experience at anything above a ++.
My personal opinion is that calamus is an unpot. In that its effects are not very similar to pot but are as intense or moreso. Prepare to be very hungry when using calamus. I never get the munchies when using cannabis but a dose of calamus will have me running to the nearest burger joint... and unlike pot you can eat without coming down from it as well. I think thats all, if you have any questions just ask.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5816568 - 07/03/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

hallucinogenic i believe is a "proper" english word


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Re: E alternatives [Re: DinahTheCat]
    #5816714 - 07/03/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

2C-I is something I find to be a grate alliterative. Its more on the psychedelic side of things. Try it with some 5-HTP maybe. Google for some vendors.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Tikiwoo]
    #5821483 - 07/04/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

2ci is an analogue of 2c-b, and is "illegal" to pocess, sell, or distribute without a dea license, bullshit analogue acts. So i dooubt youud get any sites risking to sell it now.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: DinahTheCat]
    #5821516 - 07/04/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yea sure...do your research first. Yes it is an analogue of 2c-b, But it can still be bought from thousands of online vendors just like 2C-E, 5MEO-DMT, and DIPT. I live in Texas and got 100mg of 2C-I 3 days ago.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Tikiwoo]
    #5821527 - 07/04/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Some one else can probable explain how it still can be perched...But it still can. all legal. Mine comes from Hong Kong 100mg for $50.00(I know expensive)


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Re: E alternatives [Re: Tikiwoo]
    #5821956 - 07/04/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Damn well i guess i was fooled, i found one site and one of my freinds tried to order from it, but he never got anything, and i then thgoutht that after the busts of the other bussinesses, and big ass fines, most would not be probable.


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Re: E alternatives [Re: DinahTheCat]
    #5822137 - 07/05/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

2C-C and 2C-I together are beautiful combination. Not that I condone it (although I recommend it, 10MG for each lol)

Nothing replaces MDMA though


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Re: E alternatives [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #5822570 - 07/05/06 04:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

at the head shop where we get our salvia (their pieces are too expensive!) are some e-alt pills.. like 20 for 2. i personally didnt take any, but i had two friends who both took two.

the head shop lady says "take one, and then in 45 mins if you dont like that, take the other."

one buddy pops both.
the other takes one.. doesnt think its strong enough at like 15 mins and takes the next.

both of these guys then sat in a chair/on a waterbed for about 3-4 hours. they were gooked. i played a bit of guitar for one and he giggled at some trippier sounds. "yeah.. i like that" the other guy didnt really communicate at all.

both said it was an intense trip, more like strong shrooms than X.
the one who took both pills at the same time said he was feelin that shit for like 3 days after.

i dunno what brand they were.. i can find out i bet..

i want to say Reznor.. but im more than positive thats those lil triceratops in super mario world


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Re: E alternatives [Re: hippie_cune]
    #5823352 - 07/05/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Be careful about calumus root. My friend and I tried it, it tasted severely horribly and forever ruined the taste of honey garlic sauce for me, which we coated the calumus in. For the next 4 hours, nothing happened. Then I puked my guts out. Then I went to bed, and woke up about 6 more times to throw up repeatedly. It was easily the worst experience I've ever had with any drug.


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