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areyouskankin
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What should i take? as a first timer
#5808782 - 07/01/06 02:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i want to hallucinate, like no other haha it seems so amazing
i want to try shrooms, lsd, and salvia (i just found out about salvia today). want to start off easy and naturaly progress up to lsd, cuz i think thats the most powerful (right?).
should i start off with shrooms or salvia? and where could i get salvia, not from online.?
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Phishe
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: areyouskankin]
#5808811 - 07/01/06 02:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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welcome my son, welcome, to the machine.
Ok, i think you need to do a lot more to prepare. Search the web, lots of useful tips on tripping.
From what i hear, salvia is pretty intense, but imo its very hard to get started so that wouldnt best for a first time trip.
I'd say start small with shrooms. Like split an 8th with a friend.
Good luck to you.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: areyouskankin]
#5808905 - 07/01/06 03:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patience, young Padawan, and research these boards well.
You will probably be best off with a quarter to one-half of 1/8oz shrooms, or some 0.75-1.5gr. Start low. Too much has potential to be highly unpleasant. Because of its strangeness, tripping has to be learned and like hotsauce its an acquired taste.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: Asante]
#5809132 - 07/01/06 07:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I disagree.
I feel like 3 grams would be a good starting dose. It will be enough to not dissapoint you, and give you a wonderful time, and shouldn't be enough, from my experience, to give you any negative aspects. Anything negative that does happen is just part of it though, and is just as important as the positive stuff.
I strongly advise reading up more and gaining more respect and understanding of the substances you will be taking, as well as figuring out what exactly it is you want out of them.
Also, about salvia, I would definitely not reccomend it for someone just looking to hallucinate. It is not the most pleasant experience, it really throws you into its world, and is tough to get effects in the first place, and is simply not a good drug to be fooling around with carelessly. It is unfortunate that since it is legal I hear of so many people using it just to get fucked up. Salvia... rediculous.
LSD is also not the most powerful, though it is the most potent, since you take tiny doses. But in reality you can get equally as powerful experiences from a lot of psychadelics, including DMT, Mushrooms, Salvia, Mescaline etc.
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Uh, 3 grams would be close to overdoing it for a first timer. I've seen first timers do it before, and they said they'd try it again, but it was a pretty rough ride for them, but its ultimately the posters decision anyway, and they should be reading enough to know the ballpark of what dose they take by the time they think they are ready.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5809344 - 07/01/06 10:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Personally I'd suggest 2g. It's my favourite dose (as I find I usually don't want a full out trip, I preffer keeping that little bit of control with me) and was my first dose. It's enough to give you an idea of what the experience is like. You'll get a feel for what the visual distortions could be like (maybe not, nothing's certain with shrooms) and will be enough to enjoy yourself as long as you're not setting any expectations.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: StickyWater]
#5809355 - 07/01/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree, two grams is a great first dose. If the shrooms are potent, eeven that can be a wild ride...
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: Mourningdove]
#5809381 - 07/01/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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my first trip was 3.5g of some cubies. . . Everything went well but different people react differently. I'd keep the dose low for a first-time user. Doing shrooms first would be the legit way to go. I would wait a good while before trying salvia. . . whew. . . salvia <-- that's what I look like on salvia.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: drijx]
#5809955 - 07/01/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya, salvia's definitely not for the uninitiated, I agree that 2 grams of shrooms is best to start, or possibly one hit of acid, get comfortable with both these before moving on to salvia or dmt/aya.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: ngnyus]
#5810204 - 07/01/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I recommend doing lsd before shrooms to all of my friends. You aren't in control on mushrooms really. On lsd, it's a lot easier to have a great time. Do salvia after you're very experienced.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: shroomanic]
#5810384 - 07/01/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Personally I say if for your first time 2g's of mushrooms or one hit of acid would be the best. I actually think acid to be much more gentle then mushrooms, mushrooms are just downright strange and eerie half the time. Mushrooms are great, but the first time I really got a buzz off them my friends and I picked and boiled up 150 fresh liberty caps between us and I got really screwed up for the first hour, on the verge of a bad trip.
Also I definitely wouldn't recommend salvia unless you've had a nice few trips and think you are somewhat stable. That shit will blow you out of the water, and you'll never see it comming. I can understand you wanting to try hallucinogens to see stuff because I think almost everyone thought that to be really cool at one point, but you learn it's a lot different then that. The point where you get to on mushrooms or acid where your mind will make you see something that isn't there at all, you are too mindfucked and it's a lot more disorienting then you'd previously think.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: Dr_Gonzo_25]
#5810579 - 07/01/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Take it from me, I did shrooms for my first time over spring break of this year. I only did a little more than a half an eighth, and it blew me away, the beginning was awesome, amazing, spectacular, but the peak was INTENSE, I bad tripped hardcore for like 2 hours before it started to mellow out and be awesome again.
As for salvia, I did that last year, and I had no idea what it was or what'd it do, and like they said, it blows you away. Salvia is alot shorter, but fucking intense, your trip can seem like days in a few minutes and theres so much margin for error just because of what environment you're in. Trust me, I did a shitload of research before i tried shrooms, so I suggest you do too, its a hell of a lot more than seeing shit, you feel shit, you lose grip with reality almost completely, what you think it is guaranteed is nothing like what it really is, atleast that was how it was for me, so no doubt, its an experience. Good luck, let us know how it goes
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areyouskankin
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: Woahtubulardude]
#5810878 - 07/01/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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thanks for all the suggestions.
ive been doin some research and i know its more than just seeing shit, but i think im prepared for it.
actually after reading some reports of bad trips and various other trips, i don't think theres any way to possibly prepare your mind for something like this. but i think im ready, and i accept the fact that i will be facing the unknown and the unimaginable.
anyway i hope i can get my hands on some shrooms soon
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: 2859558484]
#5811298 - 07/02/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: StickyWater]
#5811379 - 07/02/06 12:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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StickyWater said: Personally I'd suggest 2g.
yeah. and do the salvia last ... i never done it but my friends had a really intense time off of it.
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Re: What should i take? as a first timer [Re: Asante]
#5811446 - 07/02/06 01:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Patience, young Padawan, and research these boards well.
You will probably be best off with a quarter to one-half of 1/8oz shrooms, or some 0.75-1.5gr. Start low. Too much has potential to be highly unpleasant. Because of its strangeness, tripping has to be learned and like hotsauce its an acquired taste.
|**RIDICULOUS THEORY READ AT YOUR OWN RISK**| LoL I foresee our young ones future experience to be full of star wars hallucinations, possibly influencing the thought of being a Jedi with force powers such as mind-trick, which breaks our young friends willpower during intake of lets say shrooms or LSD. he will force mind trick the hawt ladies at xtc parties and be successful! Leading to a intensely felt spiritual awakening forming the thought of being a Jedi in reality and when all is done and out of his system a reflection on the intense feeling of being a Jedi will return making him believe he truly is a Jedi. It might progress into an epidemic of 2! yes thats right 2 star wars kids!! Then reality checks in completely after a week or two and our young friend is forever humiliated until a few years carve out any remaining social flaws. Its a disaster waiting to happen for the new guy, which easily seems to scale at epic proportions for the individuals social life.
Oho the far-out...no the unreachable possibility of such a trip happening has been reformed into worse!! Just look!
Chance Before My exaggeration and Jedi scheme: %.00000000000000000000000000000000000-1XXXimpossible Chance As of Now: %.00000000000000000000000000001 it now has a greater chance of occurrence..what have I..we..done!? WHO KNOWS WHAT'LL HAPPEN!? |**RIDICULOUS THEORY READ AT YOUR OWN RISK**|
Ridiculous..I know ....seriously....ridiclous is who me as myself and I defines when rolling *up* high in white streaming euphoria portraying in my perception white thick clouds with enough consistency to allow someone thats weight is 1,000lbs to lay, stretch, jump, and to achieve total loss of control. Yeah....mesa shuddap!
Alright so...regarding this threads topic in a much more sane and hopefully constructive way...presenting below...my collected thoughts,
First in order to be prepared for the worst one must know as much facts about the substance and any of its effects/side-effects. Get to understand as best you can about someone else's trip, and reading just one trip report isn't a good way to make a solid idea of whats suspected to happen or could happen. If undergoing a number of different hallucinogenics (LSD, shrooms etc..) under any mental or physical instability such as depression or uneasy/discomfort mind sets be forewarned that you may suffer a unwanted bad trip or an even more unwanted feeling, but such a occurrence is part of a chance, which all relies on what you will or wont do.
If your ready and have done the recommended research and have a good basic/advance understanding of the substance then by all means do it but be carefully and cautious of your surroundings and mind setting. Preparing for both visual and mental aspects of the drugs effects could really help you during trouble or during bliss.
An example of physically and mentally preparing is...--meditation or even yoga...perhaps just physically stretching..anything to set the right mood is beneficial to your self-support.
I prefer the sacred magical shrooms (hunting them down myself is a fun+) or mescaline (mescaline is more sedative with lighter visuals at lower doses) for a first timer with hallucinogens (not saying you are unfamiliar). Shrooms will possibly be a imaginatively "visual- theme-park," and thats if they're potently good-great shrooms, but if they're something like subs; which is weaker shroom than the majority of shrooms out there, well then your shroom encounter might be one with some to none in visuals, but more in mental effects. Everyones different...its all in the chemistry of the two that decides the outcome. Reflect on your dislikes or likes with any drug you encountered and remember the bad times with the good times and calculate an equation from the two to better help your !!educated!! decision (do the research of the drug or death could be a penalty).
Salvia is a fantastically moving sage herb that never ceases to amaze me or my imagination..its so fixed around "my" imagination--making it more understanding..yes a understanding that grows after each use...a friendlier understanding to my inner-judgment you can say I've grown so close to its effects that I have no discomfort or deceiving thoughts that are made just to put blame on the intrusion of chemicals..a resistance, but now its not apparent, but instead salvia acts on its own almost morphing into me becoming my everything, which flips worried into enjoyed.
Salvia isn't a substance to be taken lightly. Don't let the way I have described it fool you...here..as for the matter of facts goes most sage users feel salvia demands too much understanding. Your capability for reasoning with sage allows an understanding for its often noted as undesired effects it gives, which is nonsense its just a lack of "rise-above" perception skills.
Even though the majority of people I personally read about and shared the experience with in the flesh--reflecting the memories that took place during the sage's influence were taken in perspective as something thats to be hated including the thought of forever resisting the effects in order to be more comfortable or falsely progressive towards ending the effects faster...as if to literally fight it off mentally. These undesirable thought flowed rapidly in my mind during the first few bowls of x5-x10 sage (salvia).
Salvia became a recreational use to me when I reflected the visuals and mind set during a trip I had. it involved ordering food at a fast food drive thru window with a lady sticking half her body out of the window trying to hand me the bag full of food...it was interrupted by my sister whose thought of salvia was nothing more than bullshit. The memory of the lady in the window and someones misfortune for the drugs power drove me to making more x5 and eventually x10 gotten by myself and occasionally at head shops that had likable attitudes, which isn't common since most head shop clerks claim never to have advertise vaporizers when I just heard a radio commercial advertising vap. at the place who denied selling them...Yeah salvia...consider it.
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