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Invisibleangryshroom
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Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS*
    #580838 - 03/16/02 07:55 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Im really confused on to why these are opening up so early. I have a very powerful fish tank pump blowing in air 24/7, in about a 65 quart tub...I fan 2 times a day, at least. Whats up? THIS IS SECOND FLUSH. First flush had much larger fruits.



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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: angryshroom]
    #580989 - 03/16/02 11:39 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Take your chamber and flip it so the lids on the bottom, therefore the co2 will escape because c02 is lighter than air and will settle at the bottom of the container and above casing..................still run pump for 24/7..

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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: angryshroom]
    #581139 - 03/17/02 05:35 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

everything looks fine to me...

azurepower:
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....because c02 is lighter than air....



this is untrue....CO2 is heavier than air...
it will settle on bottom....

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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: angryshroom]
    #581146 - 03/17/02 05:48 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Your casing looks a little dry. The smaller fruits could be to decreased water availability. If you did not cahnge your set-up from the first flush it may be the water, not the C02


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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: r05c03]
    #581319 - 03/17/02 11:43 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Is it possible that the smaller fruits are of a different strain in the same casing?


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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: r05c03]
    #581473 - 03/17/02 03:17 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Nothing has really changed since my last flush. I was hoping to get a nice fatty flush, because my first flush was so nice.

Ive heard PESA is hard to get multiple flushes with, but I dont understand why. Yes, the casing looks a little dry, but I had that thing nice and moist/damp when the pins were forming. I dont want to mist too much now because I'll get a bacterial infestation.

Fanning 2-5x a day now...I dont think I can do much to save this flush, I think its just going to be small. Maybe next flush I'll get the size I am looking for.

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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: angryshroom]
    #581520 - 03/17/02 04:06 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

If you fan too much, you'll have low humidity. That could explain your small shrooms. Fan twice a day. It's enough, and you'll keep the humidity high.


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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: tomldp]
    #581668 - 03/17/02 07:42 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I have a pretty accurate digital hygrometer in there, paid 50 bucks for it. It is reading 89%. Im not fanning too much, or so I think.

This is straw spawned with brf cakes, is there any possible way that there is not enough nutrients?

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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: angryshroom]
    #581950 - 03/18/02 02:12 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

There is enough nutrients. Maybe your shrooms had to fight with a contamn, and they lost their energy to grow ?


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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: tomldp]
    #582234 - 03/18/02 10:39 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

No signs of contamination ....

I mean, I dont smell anythign funny, nor has there been any weird stuff at the surface yet. Can contams start in the middle, and work their way up? Shit that woiould suck. Still, they are still growing, and I wish my digi cam was around. My friend borrowed it.

Id say they are all growing, but they aren't the size I was looking for. I guess compared to the B+ these guys arent as easy to get the size.

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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: angryshroom]
    #582255 - 03/18/02 11:03 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

You clearly can have contamination in the middle. What I tell you is just a possibility. If the mycelium had to fight against contamn, he could have lost the energy that would have been used for the shrooms. That could explain the small size.


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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: tomldp]
    #582719 - 03/18/02 07:42 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Well Ive heard that PESA's do not preform well off of BRF/Verm cakes (which spawned the straw)...I guess that could have something to do with it.

Well If I had my digicam stil I could update the pics. They did turn out to be OK in size, however a little small. I guess I shouldnt complain, I did get a good 40 shrooms off this one casing, however most are around 3-5 inches... :frown: Got a few that were  about 7, and very nice however! :smile:

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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: angryshroom]
    #583735 - 03/19/02 09:24 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

This person I know gets shitty second flushes with their PESA's too


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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: angryshroom]
    #583863 - 03/20/02 12:55 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

It looks a little dry, try spraying it with a peroxide+water mix... get it good and moist. Your 1st flush sucks aLOT of water out of your caseing and substrate, it needs to be rehydrated to have enough water to produce more fruits.

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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: SumGuy]
    #598392 - 04/04/02 08:09 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I cant even get PESA to fruit at all.

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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: ]
    #598414 - 04/04/02 08:51 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

to be honest-those dont even look like pesa at all-mine flushed 4 times(4th going now)from cakes-the smaller fruits look similar to my pesa-but the larger fruits look more like my ecuador-i noticed that you have a bright light on them-maybe thats why the casing is dry,and lack of water is causing this problem-
sure those are the same shrooms in that one casing?
my pesa look nothing like that-
i grew mine from brf/verm cakes-
i didnt case mine-i plan too next time-
and also thats looks like a peet moss casing 50/50?
i can tell from the color of it thats its dry as hell-


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Re: Not enough air exchange?? PESA *PICS* [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #598652 - 04/04/02 01:03 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

i have colonized birdseed that i used to spawn dung/straw mix and cased with 50/50. absolutely BEAUTIFUL fucking first flush!! looked like aq jungle in there! the second flush was definitely not as impressive. but the third i had some nice fat fruits, just not as many as the first. i'm on my 4th flush now and cheesin like a cheshire cate!


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