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The most powerful force
    #5808145 - 06/30/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

...in the universe is the ability to act. No other thing can influence the dream more than actions taken.


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5808399 - 07/01/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

words of wisdom :wink:


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5808824 - 07/01/06 02:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps we can find the 'will' there somewhere, too.
Perhaps as transcendental form of the 'act' ?


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5809141 - 07/01/06 07:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

understanding and keeping still is more valuable than action


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5809155 - 07/01/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Could you explain that sir? I don't see how it applies to a real scenario.

I can see how it might be more valuable to one's self. But it seems that to the world, at least if we are talking about the dualistic world, then it would be wise to help others with your understanding, through compassion.


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5809215 - 07/01/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

...in the universe is the ability to act. No other thing can influence the dream more than actions taken.

The "ability to act" is potential energy, or things not done. 

"Actions taken" is the result of kinetic energy, or things already done.

They are different things and yet you are attempting to use them in the same context.  :frown:

What do you mean by "the dream"?


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5809232 - 07/01/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

LunarEclipse said:
...in the universe is the ability to act. No other thing can influence the dream more than actions taken.

The "ability to act" is potential energy, or things not done. 

"Actions taken" is the result of kinetic energy, or things already done.

They are different things and yet you are attempting to use them in the same context.  :frown:

What do you mean by "the dream"?




"Potential energy" boils down to the fact that we have a choice to tap into that energy. "Actions taken" is the point in time after we have used the ability of choice to exercise that potential energy.


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: michael_lifshitz]
    #5809257 - 07/01/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

michael_lifshitz said:
Could you explain that sir? I don't see how it applies to a real scenario.

I can see how it might be more valuable to one's self. But it seems that to the world, at least if we are talking about the dualistic world, then it would be wise to help others with your understanding, through compassion.




the impulse to act is a given.
people
nations
constantly fall into traps
due to the impulse to act.

cultivating restraint from action
becomes a greater power
than action.

it is an important paradox, and not a simple thing to apply in life


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5809282 - 07/01/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps it depends on how broad our understanding of "action" is allowed to become.

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med·i·ta·tion
1. The act or process of meditating.
2. A devotional exercise of or leading to contemplation.





The choice to remain still, observe and quiet our thoughts, control and pattern our breathing, is a deliberate action.


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5809288 - 07/01/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"understanding and keeping still is more valuable than action"

Understanding and keeping still is a form of action.


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Veritas]
    #5809293 - 07/01/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry you already said it...I did not read your post before posting...oh well....I agree with you then.


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5809376 - 07/01/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: It's the mind meld I performed on you during your visit.


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Veritas]
    #5809379 - 07/01/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Possibly....my visit had impact on me in many ways :smile:


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5809382 - 07/01/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Damn it...you're so right.


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5809385 - 07/01/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Excellent!


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: MOTH]
    #5809431 - 07/01/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Why "damn it"? I choose to "rejoice in it".


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: Syle]
    #5809597 - 07/01/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Potential energy means little in terms of actualization, other than maybe.  People in general are a vast pool of unrealized potential and full of excuses made for actions not taken.  Most people have all kinds of choices that they don't take. 

What does choice have to do with action??  :frown:


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Re: The most powerful force [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5809615 - 07/01/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

If there is an act, then there is a will.


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