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InvisibleArrakis
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Re: Risks of tripping young? [Re: Delirious]
    #5830434 - 07/07/06 02:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Don't do it; don't even think about it. Goddamn, she isn't even 18 yet. Regardless of what you believe her maturity level to be, her brain is still in a critical stage of development (the age of 21 is when her brain will be pretty much fully developed) and giving her such powerful psychoactive substances will only do her harm.

Her first sexual experience probably won't feel very good to her, so why don't you provide that too so that it will be "in a safe environment"?

How about trying to keep her AWAY from drugs altogether? That would really be the brotherly thing to do; not you giving her a very strong substance that could cause psychological/emotional damage for the rest of her life.

Even though she is a girl, I think that I would kick my little sister's ass if she began experimenting with drugs, but she hasn't and won't (until perhaps when she gets into college, in about 2 years now). I've always warned her about the dangers of experimenting with drugs and pointing out my old friends and acquaintances of hers (I keep track of her friends since I'm 22 and can connect easier with her at 17 than my parents can) and the consequences that came from their experimentation at such young ages. So I'm proud to say that I have actually been a good influence on her in that respect.

Perhaps you should do the same.


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InvisibleArrakis
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Re: Risks of tripping young? [Re: Phishe]
    #5830443 - 07/07/06 02:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Phishe said:
LSD is virtually as harmless as magical mushrooms. 2cb i dont know much about.




Bullshit. LSD is known to worsen existing mood disorders AND even cause them. Not to mention post traumatic stress reactions that could result from the trip itself. Just go speak to any physician who studies drug usage and addictions, and they will point to study after study which confirms this, and patient after patient who has suffered these long-term effects. Don't take everything that you read on Erowid as gospel.

Psilocybin hasn't been shown to be as bad as LSD, but it's still a dangerous substance. It's the only other drug that I do besides weed, and I rarely use either.

Don't keep on feeding people a bunch of crap (like a few others on here do) about how psychedelics are harmless; that's complete bullshit.


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Re: Risks of tripping young? [Re: Arrakis]
    #5830682 - 07/07/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

YEP!!!! couldn't agree more...I suggest ppl listen to this dude

if your gonna be a tripper u need to come to terms with the fact that yes its possible to damage yourself...its like doing anything else thats physically dangerous tho...its about taking a chance...but this dosen't mean its for everyone and I'd probably rank up there with skydiving to be honest...something can happen but its unlikely if your stable....but I also fully believe that these drugs(specifically lsd) are a key in finding the solution to these problems in the first place


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Re: Risks of tripping young? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5830763 - 07/07/06 07:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The thought of giving drugs to a minor, family or not, should never cross your mind. Teach her now, so when she is older she can do her own thing. Psychedelics can do ALOT of damage to the mind, especially a young mind that is still developing. Educate her with the truth, let her make her decisions.

Think about it hard. Since there is a chance, although slight, that she may have bad psychological problems resulting from this trip, why would you take the risk? Why would you chance putting your sister in a situation where some mental disorder may come to surface? Are you prepared to deal with her when she freaks out and ends up having anxiety attacks for the rest of her life?

I am not saying anything bad will happen. I am not saying there is a good chance anything bad will happen. However, the chance does exist that something may go wrong, especially with such a young mind. Do you really want to be the cause? How are you going to explain that to your family, and to her later on in life?

I am not trying to get you down. I see where you are comming from by wanting to do this with her. Drugs arent for kids, and the only people that will tell you they are...are kids themselves.


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Re: Risks of tripping young? [Re: dedjam]
    #5830776 - 07/07/06 08:03 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i think you should not do it, I think she is way to young for psycadelics. be responsible for your own sake and for hers. instead , if she insist on trying them elsewhere, try to make her wait until she gets older.


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Re: Risks of tripping young? [Re: Arrakis]
    #5830934 - 07/07/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Arrakis said:
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Phishe said:
LSD is virtually as harmless as magical mushrooms. 2cb i dont know much about.




Bullshit. LSD is known to worsen existing mood disorders AND even cause them. Not to mention post traumatic stress reactions that could result from the trip itself. Just go speak to any physician who studies drug usage and addictions, and they will point to study after study which confirms this, and patient after patient who has suffered these long-term effects. Don't take everything that you read on Erowid as gospel.

Psilocybin hasn't been shown to be as bad as LSD, but it's still a dangerous substance. It's the only other drug that I do besides weed, and I rarely use either.

Don't keep on feeding people a bunch of crap (like a few others on here do) about how psychedelics are harmless; that's complete bullshit.




I wasn't at all saying lsd is harmless. I was only saying because someone stated that it's better to do mushrooms than lsd. While that may be true, they both are nearly as harmful. I'm just one of those people who relate everything with harmless instead of harmful. Sorry for any confusion, or as you said "bullshit".


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Re: Risks of tripping young? [Re: Phishe]
    #5831223 - 07/07/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This argument gets so tiring, and it could be avoided I think if people would just clarify what they say. LSD is harmless physiologically (BIG WORD -- thats why there is something called a dictionary), at normal doses for an adult brain, but that doesn't mean its harmless psychologically (not to be confused with PHYSIOLOGICALLY) for any age brain.

A little bit of reading would go a long way.

As for the question of tripping young? I think its a bad idea. Why? Because when you're young you are less informed, more risky, more likely to do things you'll regret later, and more emotional. Why else? The developing brain is not something to fuck with. You might not cause any harm, or you might exacerbate a potential schizophrenic. When I was 16 I couldn't fathom being 22. Now that I'm 22, it seems like yesterday I was 16. I could've waited to trip, but I didn't, but I probably should have. I will probably never know if any long term negative effects will come of it.

If she is gung-ho about it and is going to do it no matter what, then trip with her and show her what you know. If she doesn't show any interest, then certainly don't try to influence her...this would be a huge mistake. This is a choice people NEED to make on their own.


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