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Re: Can someone explain reincarnation to me? [Re: dblaney]
#5807311 - 06/30/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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here's my humble attempt:
energy / matter cannot be created or destroyed, not exclusive to measurable energy and matter, but spiritual as well. therefore, your thoughts and emotions and etc. are not destroyed either
eastern religion / philosophy is really a poetic version of physics.
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zeegos
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Re: Can someone explain reincarnation to me? [Re: dblaney]
#5807324 - 06/30/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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dblaney said: Rebirth just means that after you die, others will continue to be born. But once you are gone, you're gone. "You" will never again return. There is no permanent self or entity or soul or atman that is "you".
"You" are just a collection of various elements arranged in a certain manner that arose due to the coming together of the necessary causes and conditions. Once the conditions necessary for "you" are gone, "you" die. Others will still be born, and probably even others who are very strikingly similar to the way "you" were.
This is what i generally believe in. Once 'you' die, 'you' die. Others will continue to be born, but since 'you' dont exist, i feel there may be a possibility that you can be reborn. I cant really explain without using the word 'you' but it isnt you who will be reborn, a nother human being will develop in the mother and its mind has to come from somewhere which might be you but not you as you are in this life. sry difficult to put across. My general idea is: Before birth and after death you are in the same non-existant state. Therefor reincarnation is a realistic possibility in my view
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Re: Can someone explain reincarnation to me? [Re: michael_lifshitz]
#5807351 - 06/30/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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its the same as going to sleep and waking in the morning. bunch of weird stuff in between
but, some people see this wierd stuff while awake; they are mystics...
they can claim anything they want that applies to their lifesytle...
but if you don't see it don't exist
anybody here remember being born again?
hold up your hands!~
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SoY
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Re: Can someone explain reincarnation to me? [Re: Schwammel]
#5807835 - 06/30/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zeegos said: This is what i generally believe in. Once 'you' die, 'you' die. Others will continue to be born, but since 'you' dont exist, i feel there may be a possibility that you can be reborn. I cant really explain without using the word 'you' but it isnt you who will be reborn, a nother human being will develop in the mother and its mind has to come from somewhere which might be you but not you as you are in this life. sry difficult to put across. My general idea is: Before birth and after death you are in the same non-existant state. Therefor reincarnation is a realistic possibility in my view
I know exactly what you mean. This is my current working understanding of it. You were actually able to put it into words though, kinda. Very hard to describe. Good job mate!
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Re: Can someone explain reincarnation to me? [Re: zeegos]
#5808641 - 07/01/06 01:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zeegos said: This is what i generally believe in. Once 'you' die, 'you' die. Others will continue to be born, but since 'you' dont exist, i feel there may be a possibility that you can be reborn. I cant really explain without using the word 'you' but it isnt you who will be reborn, a nother human being will develop in the mother and its mind has to come from somewhere which might be you but not you as you are in this life. sry difficult to put across. My general idea is: Before birth and after death you are in the same non-existant state. Therefor reincarnation is a realistic possibility in my view
I believe htat you don't exist until you are born, but after you die you continue to exist. I suppose this would be the christian/muslim/any other religion I am failing to mention.
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SoY
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Re: Can someone explain reincarnation to me? [Re: hamarrboo]
#5808658 - 07/01/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zeegos said: This is what i generally believe in. Once 'you' die, 'you' die. Others will continue to be born, but since 'you' dont exist, i feel there may be a possibility that you can be reborn. I cant really explain without using the word 'you' but it isnt you who will be reborn, a nother human being will develop in the mother and its mind has to come from somewhere which might be you but not you as you are in this life. sry difficult to put across. My general idea is: Before birth and after death you are in the same non-existant state. Therefor reincarnation is a realistic possibility in my view
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I know exactly what you mean. This is my current working understanding of it. You were actually able to put it into words though, kinda. Very hard to describe. Good job mate!
This is the depressing view for me. I do not know what happens but the more hopeful idea I entertain is that the soul lives on.....
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Re: Can someone explain reincarnation to me? [Re: michael_lifshitz]
#5808945 - 07/01/06 03:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I remember many 'incarnations'. But for me it doesn't really matter, if they were real. They show a psychological part of my consciousness, lying beyond, feeding my mind and awareness. It makes sense to explore them in a metaphorical way, seen as memories of past lives. Where these memories stem from is not really important, imho. Matter is, there is something feeding our mind from beyond
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#5809010 - 07/01/06 05:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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redgreenvines
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Re: Can someone explain reincarnation to me? [Re: soulcircus]
#5809127 - 07/01/06 07:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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from the mass of comments here dealing with a mass of ideas about life death and rebirth, the most important consideration seems to be how we feel about the ideas and how they come together.
something about being open and in good spirits counts for far more than clamping down in certainty with a 50% chance of being wrong.
this is the same way of going that steers ongoing life towards either the hell of diseased existence on the decomposing train of life, or the heaven of love, beauty and renewal at every turn.
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