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Invisibleshroomanic
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Natural Tolerance?
    #5804992 - 06/29/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

So last night I ingested 4 hits of liquid acid, estimated to be around 90 mics. All of my other friends that took 3/4 hits had lots of breathing and morphing visuals and were completely tripping off in their own universe.
I, on the other hand, had no visuals, except for when I stared at the concrete floor and keep trying to make it breathe, and it did a little bit. I'm wondering why I didn't trip as hard.
I'm not on any meds, I know the tolerance issues and I haven't used any psyches in months. It also seemed I reacted this way to mushrooms also.
It also lasted 8-9 hours, while others lasted around 15. One girl took 4 and tripped for about 30 hours.


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: shroomanic]
    #5805558 - 06/30/06 01:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I had something like that happen to me, where my friends all claimed to trip after 1 tab, and had 3 with no results. In my case, I think we just got lied to and were sold something other than acid, or they were lame and got a placebo effect.

Had you smoked pot recently? The only other person that got the same results as me was my friend's brother, and we were the only ones who had smoked w/in two weeks.


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: shroomanic]
    #5805708 - 06/30/06 02:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno, brain chemistry is complicated and full of lots of variables. Individual reactions differ across populations, and even over time themselves. You might be less susceptible to drugs that antagonize serotonin receptors, but I've also noticed, over the years, differences in my own reactions for no apparent reason; most probably shifts in brain chemistry due to diet/stress/environment/etc...


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: shroomanic]
    #5805987 - 06/30/06 04:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ya thats a good answer...I personally have a VERY high tolerance to psilocybin(with or without ssri's) with effexor I need around 15gs just to have a visual experience...but acid seems right on the money /me shrugs...have u ever used acid before? try doubling the amount next time maybe..I mean if your tolerance was just off for no apparent reason then your gonna trip fuckin balls at 90mics each but it won't kill u(but maybe your not interested in a trip that hard so its your call)


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: shroomanic]
    #5806040 - 06/30/06 05:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Do you smoke pot at all? How often? How long before you dropped that dose?
I've noticed that mj has some sort of "activation" effect for many drugs when used even slightly within a week of taking some other substance.
This really messed with me for a while when I was a causal smoker, taking a hit or two when offered to me. Anyway, I started noticing, especially with psychedelics and mdma, that if I smoked within a week prior to ingesting these, I'd "need" some cannibus to really feel their full effect. Otherwise I'd have a severely diminished experience.
And if I hadn't touched the ganj for about a week or more? I was just fine without it. Full effect from whatever I was ingesting.

If you, or anyone else, has experienced this, or would care to test my hypothesis, please let me know. I'm curious if it's just me and my mind playing tricks on me.
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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: nunciate]
    #5806076 - 06/30/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

thats weird I've definitely never experienced that..but I suppose its a possible


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: nunciate]
    #5806084 - 06/30/06 06:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

With LSD, I find trying to 'force' visuals is the quickest way to make them not happen.

However, I have found that the intensity of LSD is largely tied into the set/setting you are in.

Example:

I had this batch of LSD. 1st time I tripped with it, I only did 1.5 hits, but I was super-excited to trip, going to a club for a DJ I really wanted to see. All around, was in a very good place. The LSD hit me so hard I almost decided to say home. However, I went out and had an /amazing/ time.

Fast forward a few months. I had been keeping this batched stored air tight, in the freezer, wrapped in tinfoil and only a few months had gone by - so there shouldnt of been any loss of potency.

Goto a Psytrance party, drop 3 hits of the stuff.

It hits me weird, I cant get into the party - not really feeling it while inside the club. I step outside, BOOM, it all hits me really hard for 10-15 mins, I start to walk home, and the trip pretty much fades. I get some neat patterns here/there/etc, by time I get home. I'm bored, I dont want to trip, I just want it to end - I then spend the next 8 hours just sitting there with hardly any visuals, no interesting thoughts. Just wanting it to end.

Funny thing is, after around 9 hours or so, in the comedown/after-glow I sort of start to get into it, and the last 2 or 3 hours was probably the most intense part of the trip.

Your mind has an amazing ability to dictate how 'strong' the LSD is for you.

I had done that blotter a few times before so I KNOW it was legit, it wasnt fake/etc. I've had quite a few good trips from it in the past :smile:

If you sat there trying to force visuals all night (which I find doesnt work on LSD, relax and let the visuals form for you), think 'bah, this isnt doing anything' then get into the mindset that the trip is weak - then it can end up being weak.


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: kaniz]
    #5806103 - 06/30/06 06:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

a strong dose of good acid is gonna be visual tho...theres really no way around it(u won't have to try to see visuals they will be overpowering your vision)

its possible u just had some weak hits in the batch kaniz(maybe from the dealer holding the blotter with bare hands while cuttin it up)


Edited by Iamthewalrus (06/30/06 06:16 AM)


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5806129 - 06/30/06 06:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, I did get very strong visuals for a short bit. Like I said, when I lerf the club - the world did cartwheels around me for a awhile. The walk home I got visuals - scrolling along the sidewalk, trees morphing/dancing/etc

When I got home, once or twice I sort of 'disolved' into everything while sitting on my couch. But as I sat there, and the more bored I got, and the 'less into' the trip I got, the more the visuals died down. I was /so/ not into the trip that I was pretty much able to stop like, 90% of it kinda thing.

Then as morning came around, and I was still awake, I figured 'fuck it, I midswell make the best of it' -- puffed on a small bit of weed and let myself get wrapped up into it a bit more -- and the visuals came back/etc, not very strong - as this was quite a few hours into it, but enough to be interesting.

I find LSD can be very strange like that at times. Also, there are times where if there is too much stimulation, the LSD seems to go away.

When I was at Mutek a few weeks ago. If was on the dancefloor, I'd feel like, 90% sober --- looking into the distance I'd see some visuals/etc, but I felt very with it. Leave the dance floor and go relax by the pond? stuff would increase in intensity 10x

Or, in the winter, on 6 hits. Was tripping very hard, my buildings fire alarm goes off - I start to run around like a chicken with my head cutoff, the trip pretty much stops dead in its tracks. No visuals, no interesting thoughts, just pure grade-4 fire drill mode. Once my BF stops me and clues me in that its a false alarm. I sit on the couch and relax, but for about the next 10 mins I felt like I was 99.9% sober - no visuals, no nothing. As I started to relax and get feeling comfortable again, the trip starts to swing into high gear all over again.

Or, if I'm sitting in a park just sort of spacing into the distance - the world is doing amazing things. But, if I hear someone walk by, or a group of people - I snap back into myself and the intensity of the trip greatly diminishes until they pass by.

The mind has an uncanny ability to put the breaks onto a trip if you need it to/want it to.

and as for the hits, my dealer always has them wrapped in plastic wrap - he has the entire sheet wrapped so when he's cutting it, he's not getting his fingers all over it.


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: kaniz]
    #5806133 - 06/30/06 06:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

thats cool thx for the explanation...maybe the weed fired it up a bit too(weed also seems to make things more exciting especially when your bored)

are u female? wow I thought for sure u were a guy :P(its the avatar lol)


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5806323 - 06/30/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Iamthewalrus said:
ya thats a good answer...I personally have a VERY high tolerance to psilocybin(with or without ssri's) with effexor I need around 15gs just to have a visual experience...but acid seems right on the money /me shrugs...have u ever used acid before? try doubling the amount next time maybe..I mean if your tolerance was just off for no apparent reason then your gonna trip fuckin balls at 90mics each but it won't kill u(but maybe your not interested in a trip that hard so its your call)




I thought I hated my non-built-up tolerance of psilocybin, it usually takes at least an eighth to feel anything (a great batch comes in every once in a while and makes that claim false though). But 15g? I would opt for lots of boosters or combos. But two hits of acid is enough for me to go into a blatant and harsh mind fuck.


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: mellowrubberduck]
    #5807226 - 06/30/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think this should be stickied in this forum or something, but to answer your question.

- Yes, I am a guy
- Yes, I have a boyfriend

:P It's a common enough mistake, when someone mentions a BF on a message board I tend to assume they are a girl unless otherwise stated.


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: kaniz]
    #5807297 - 06/30/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ya sorry bro :smile:


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5807319 - 06/30/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

But, on a semi un-related note. About to head down to the beach, enjoy a nice night with some lucy in my head :smile:

A bunch of parties are going on down there tonight also. Looking forward to relaxing on the beach then bouncing between varies parties when I get the urge to dance :smile: DJs, loud sound systems and all.

Heading down early so I can drop and enjoy a few hours of my trip before the place starts to fill up.


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Re: Natural Tolerance? [Re: kaniz]
    #5807366 - 06/30/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

sounds like a good time...have fun man


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