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ZippoZ
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poor dying bunny in a box
#5804930 - 06/29/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I went over to my friends house earler today to go get her and go to china town and chill on lake michigan for a bit. nothing romantic or anyhting just an old friend.
anyways as i get to her door , what do i see but her cat, standing over a poor baby bunny. Its back legs were not moving but its front ones were... it was pretty messed up, but not bleeding and still breathing heavily...
so we put it in a box on the side of the house with some grass and lettuce and some milk in a saucer and went to the city hoping that it would get better.
when we got back about a half hour ago, it was still alive, but barely able to open its eyes....
i dropped her off and took the buny back home with me.
its sitting there... probably in horrible pain, mostlikely dying. I dont know what to do except wait it out there are those that say killing it would be the way to go.. but i couldnt ever do it. its pretty sad i wish i could do more, but there really isnt any more that i can do
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5804940 - 06/29/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Euthanize it man. The thing is suffering. They usually gas animals that are suffering. They normally use CO2 to gas them. If you can rig some apparatus where you can collect the gas from baking soda + vinegar gasses to flow into the bunnies house, I'd do that.
When I have to euthanize animals I'll either shoot them or CO2 them (I have a 20lb tank of CO2 for my planted tank). With cold blooded animals, I'll stick them in the freezer. Rabbits are warm blooded though, don't do that.
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ZippoZ
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: Gumby]
#5804947 - 06/29/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i have some n20 that i could gas it with, or propane.... but i cant do it man
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: Gumby]
#5804951 - 06/29/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dude you have to do one of two things,
Put it down,
Or seek immediate medical attention,
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5804961 - 06/29/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dunno what to say, part of me says you should smash its face in with a brick, but the better part of me says to do whatever it takes to keep it from dying.
Vet?
If i were you i would probably be giving it all kinds of food and milk and shit. let his final meal be a feast he's only dreamed of
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5804962 - 06/29/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's suffering man. If you were paralyzed and were in imense pain, wouldn't you want someone to put you out of your misery?
Sure, it's sad, but it's for the better. I think most beings would rather die quickly then suffer an awfully painful and slow death. You gotta do what needs to be done.
Propane would work, that'd be the most humane. N2O would probably be cruel. I wouldn't want to trip before I die.
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5804966 - 06/29/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please put it down. I once went to a mans house(friend of the family) and he had a lot of rabbits. I mean an obscene amount. I was very young at the time and he told us(my sisters and I) that he was going to make dinner with one of them. He grabbed one of the rabbits out of one of the cages and held it upside down. Then with a hammer he whacked the bunny in the head a couple of times. It was one of the worst things I ever had to see.
Poor things. If I ever had to put an animal down...it would be in the most gentle way as possible.
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: Gumby]
#5804968 - 06/29/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Listen to Gumby, he said it all. Put it down however you can, the poor thing is suffering.
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5804970 - 06/29/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The best way is to deliver some Euthanylâ„¢ (Pentobarbitol sodium) directly into the heart muscle with a large-gage cardiac needle...
That's how I want to be put to sleep...
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5804975 - 06/29/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quick story, I found this one on the side of the road in the middle of winter in frozen mud,
It was not moving and it's rear end look messed up,
I took it immediately to the vet, it had a broken pelvis,
Long store short he is still with us, and yeah it cost more then I would have liked but hey,


So please do one of the two,
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5804976 - 06/29/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i dunno man, i dunno... i cant do it. i couldnt do it. i cannot kill, anything even if it is for the best.
for what its worth, the poor thing probably cant even feel anything anymore.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5804978 - 06/29/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Then have someone else do it.
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CaRnAgECaNdY
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: despisedicon]
#5804982 - 06/29/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
despisedicon said: Then have someone else do it.
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ZippoZ
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: despisedicon]
#5804984 - 06/29/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i cant do somthing to it that i wouldnt want done to me.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5804991 - 06/29/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seriously?
If I was unbearable pain and there was nothing that could be done besides death itself. I'd pray that someone would let me go.
Of course, you don't know for sure how serious the injuries are, but regardless, it's barely moving as you stated. Bring it to me. Take it to a vet. You have a few choices.
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5804999 - 06/29/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah thats another thing i dont know how bad the injuries really are. its still breathing, not moving as much, but i wouldnt put death as inveitable....
if in the morning it was still alive i would bring it to the vet nextdoor but they aint open for quite a few hours.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: ZippoZ]
#5805037 - 06/29/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's a good idea. I would suggest not trying to put it off though. As incomfortable as it makes you, you know you need to do what is right. Or at least, what's best.
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5805051 - 06/29/06 11:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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how can you judge what is best for another living thing? It may seem like its going to die, but will it? if it wasnt going to and i killed it, would that be right?
i dont fucking understand how people (life) can have such a dinity of death, and find it horribly wrong to kill another human
yet find it perfectly fine to kill another animal (life) or any other living creature.
Why is it dignified to allow a loved one in your family to die a painful slow death, yet totally apropriate to kill a loved animal at the onset of a bad disease?
its all life.
and yes i spent a good portion of my day watching my grandmother in isolation in the ICU recovering from god knows what related to chemotherapy and her cancer.
so should i go finish off the bunny, load both barrels and go head back down to the hospital beacuse believe me grandma is suffering, and life is life.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5805059 - 06/29/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, if you literally CAN'T kill it yourself, then take it out into the country/woods and let it die out there as opposed in a box in your room. Either that or take it to a vet, or read up on the net for any helpful info on reviving it.
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Re: poor dying bunny in a box [Re: Cubieman420]
#5805070 - 06/29/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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in the woods out here it will be ripped to shreads by another animal, cat, dog or coyote. I think that letting it have a warm place to possibly live through the night is somthing better than that.
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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