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Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors.
    #5804721 - 06/29/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I ordered a P. Viridis plant, along with seeds for the rest of the plants I named.
I'd be growing these under a 250 watt HPS, in a 3.5x3.5 area. Would this be enough room for these plants? I'm adding fans, making sure they have proper ventalation, etc.
This is a new garden I'm starting out, just dedicated to these plants. I'm hoping I'll be able to get the HBWR to flower as well, due to the fact I have control of the light cycles.
Can I have some advice on growing/germinating these wonderful plants?

Thanks for the help in advance.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. *DELETED* [Re: microsporum]
    #5804783 - 06/29/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: Ngalyod]
    #5805167 - 06/29/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm no master gardener, just your everyday green thumb, but here's what I know.
P. Viridis. Once they're established they are pretty hardy, but if they suffer a hard shipping shock or are pretty young you may have some problems. Ever grow salvia? If your plants pretty young just keep it in a humidity tent til it's roots are well formed and it grows a couple new sets of leaves, then slowly acclimate it to normal humidity. No direct sunlight, (will tolerate a little more sunlight than salvia) keep soil moist and loose, DON"T OVERWATER, let the soil surface dry to the touch before watering, and after it's out of the tent you'll still have to mist it often, especially when the pairs of leaves are close to opening.
P. Harmala. HARD AS FUCK TO GROW FROM SEEDS. Plant 2 or 3 pots of half soil half sand and put them in a couple different windows that get full to partial sun (don't ask why, just worked for me.) Keep moist until the first sprouts come up then comes the hard part. let the soil dry before you re water, too much water kills em right away, but if you go 12 hours to long after they want the water they'll fall right over. My advice, plant tons of seed in hope of one plant, good luck.
HBWR. Indoors it won't flower hard enough to get it to flower outside with a misting system set up. To start the seeds nick them and soak them overnight or until they begin to show signs of swelling, Plant them 1/2 inch deep and keep the soil moist, in my experience they generally have about a 25% germination rate. They grow real slow, so dont be surprised, If you want to make them a little bushier wait till they get quite a few good sized leaves and cut off the first two at the ground, you'll generally get four more growing stems, if they don't cause rot and die (heeheehee) Water sparingly allowing the top inch to dry before watering, and as young plants they like partial sun, NOT FULL SUN, I don't care what other websites tell you.
Good luck!


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: ngnyus]
    #5805943 - 06/30/06 04:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ngnyusSupporter : From all the things you said about P. harmala, none of these are true. It's a personal point of view about this plant wich represents about the 5% of the true facts about it.


Notes on Growing Peganum harmala :
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4169757/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: Tinkal]
    #5805950 - 06/30/06 04:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

all my syrian rues attempts has failed badly heh, ive given up this plant years ago. (ive read the notes on growing peganum also) but i got caapi going indoors so im happy :laugh:


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: shamantra]
    #5806736 - 06/30/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Tinkal said "From all the things you said about P. harmala, none of these are true"
Well kudos to you for not having trouble raising them, but this is just what worked for me, and I still don't care what you say, at least in my climate THESE ARE HARD AS FUCK TO GROW FROM SEED
The only plant I've had that much trouble getting started


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: ngnyus]
    #5807304 - 06/30/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the help guys.
How would I go about germinating the cacti's seeds and raising them up, though?


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: microsporum]
    #5807679 - 06/30/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

There are plenty of methods (not trying to step on anyones toes), but I always use a bowl full of cactus soil, microwave it for 5 minutes to sterilize it, sprinkle them ON TOP(they need light to germinate) water and stick in a gallon ziplock bag. Have a fungicide on hand in case you see any mold growing and they will generally sprout in about a week.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: ngnyus]
    #5808934 - 07/01/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

just get one of those seedling/cloning trays with a dome you could either sow directly into the tray or get small 2 1/2 in square pots for it.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: microsporum]
    #5812481 - 07/02/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

WOW. Now I might be incorrect in some respects considering I didn't 'fully' read all your posts, instead opting for a 'scan-read' method, however...

I am really suprised nobody had red lights flashing upon reading the first posts.

"P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Peruvian Torch and HBWR indoors..."

Hmmm, it's possible, of course...

Under a 250hps light, presumably, based on textual references in the first post, in the same room.

Two of these plants are from arid, extreme, and 'desert-like' environs, the other two being from tropical/semi-tropical typically high-humidity environs.

How will this work? Psychotria viridis is a plant which often grows in Amazon jungles, and has different light/humidity preferences than Peganum harmala which is from desert-like regions of the Mediterranean.

Rah rah who knows


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    #5813595 - 07/02/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: Ngalyod]
    #5825214 - 07/05/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ya, what he said..., I want to know why there so damn hard for me to get started. I do consider myself a green thumb, but I'm not perfect, I love to get pointers.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: ngnyus]
    #5825259 - 07/05/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Info on growing Viridis is very scarce. I've posted at a couple of sites asking people for any pointers they could offer from their own experienes and I've never gotten any replies. Sucks.

I guess it comes down to trial and error.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: Ngalyod]
    #5829213 - 07/06/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.ethnobotanical.com/viridis.htm

This is what I found from a quick google search.

* Lighting: Full sun to slight shade when mature, filtered light when small.
* Watering: Water well several times a week if grown outdoors in big containers. Like lots of moisture and to be misted regularly. Do not let the soil become waterlogged however.
* Temperature: Will tolerate not tolerate even slight freezes.
* Fertilizing: Use full strength chemical or regular organic feedings.
* Pests and diseases: Can get a variety of pests including mealy bugs, white flies, aphids and spider mites when young.
* Growing in containers: Needs a large container with mineral rich, well drained soil. Will not grow well if overly root bound. Needs a trellis to grow over since this is a vine.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: microsporum]
    #5829349 - 07/06/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

P. Viridis also gets scale bugs quite often too, alot of times they'll be on there when you get 'em, just look like brown lumps on the stem, kinda like plant ticks. Mine's growing great about 5 feet from a window with daily mistings.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: ngnyus]
    #5829530 - 07/06/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Does it grow fast, ngnyus?

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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: microsporum]
    #5829591 - 07/06/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hell no.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: ngnyus]
    #5832411 - 07/07/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Oh yeah, another thing I forgot to mention is that all my indoor ethno's grow on two windowsills, or nearby, in my kitchen I grow my tropicals, where I have a simple humidifier (the kind your grandma set up when you were sick) going most of the time. The other is in my bedroom where I grow plants which like low humidity.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: ngnyus]
    #5832452 - 07/07/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ah, maybe the plant will fair better in the conditions I will provide it since I have some artificial light on 18/6.


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Re: Growing P. Viridis, P. Harmala, Pervuian Tourch, and HBWR indoors. [Re: microsporum]
    #5832768 - 07/07/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Could be, but from all the info I got they prefer indirect sunlight, hope yours works out for you, if it does give me a holler, I'm def. not set in my ways, just do what has worked for me so far.


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