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Significant Difference in Potency?
    #5803581 - 06/29/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm impatient. But I'm impatient because I've busted my cajones for this grow and, as I mentioned before, I've never tried shrooms.

So of course I want to pluck out some of my harvest early but it occurs to me that between young and mature shrooms there might be:

(a) No difference in potency;
(b) A mild difference in potency or;
(c) A huge difference in potency.

I realize, of course, that the shrooms I pick will grow in a few short days to be 5-10x the size they are now but if I WERE to pick them now (they're about 1-1.5" long), how potent would they be? Does that factor only really kick in later in their growth cycle?

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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5803607 - 06/29/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

As I believe, but I may be wrong, small un-mature mushrooms still have around the same % of potency as mature mushrooms, but since there smaller yeah...I'm sure you get my belief


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5803640 - 06/29/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well that is not know, measuring them scientifically, there is no piratical way of measuring them,

That leaves a subjective view on it,

logic could say that the bigger, more Psilocybin, but.......

So I dont know I say just let them go, until they are ready for harvest.  :grin:


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5803669 - 06/29/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I should have spoken clearer.

What I mean is, suppose I eat 10 wet grams of these little guys. Do you suppose it would be about as strong as 10 wet grams of mature fruits?

Clearly the mature fruits will contain more psilocybin total since they're bigger. But on a per-volume basis, is there a significant difference?

again, tia - splif


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5803679 - 06/29/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No way of knowing that for sure, but 10g wet might rock your world, and might not for someone else


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5803748 - 06/29/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Snaggletooth writes:
"No way of knowing that for sure, but 10g wet might rock your world, and might not for someone else"

I'm talking more from an assay standpoint. Ie, does 1g of juvenile fruit have more psilocybin/psilocin than 1g of mature fruit.

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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5804008 - 06/29/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

> What I mean is, suppose I eat 10 wet grams of these little guys.

That would be about 1g dried or a little less. So it probably wouldn't be a very powerful dose, but it would be good for your first time. 1.75g (1/2 eighth) is a good dose, while 3.5 will give you a mind blower about 25% of the time IME. So I recommend 1.5-2g (dry weight equiv.) for a good trip, probably 1.5g for your first time. That dose should provide the medicinal benefits you are seeking for the relief of your ailments. Of course make sure that your medicinal mushrooms are the perfectly legal healthy type and that your ailments are of the type treated by your species.

> Do you suppose it would be about as strong as 10 wet grams of mature fruits?

It will be a bit stronger. Immature mushrooms and abhorts are more potent than mature fruits IMO.

> But on a per-volume basis, is there a significant difference?

No, but immature/young mushrooms and abhorts are more potent than mature fruits IMO.


Man, I'm excited for you just remembering back to my first experience with herbal/natural medicine. You will never have another experience like the first, so make it a good one.

The obvious advice is to wait until they are larger, but you've already waited and I'm sure the anticipation is killing you. I know how you feel. I didn't wait my first time. As soon as I had around 15 wet grams I harvested them, and I don't regret it. There will be plenty more coming your way in the future since you've already mastered simple growing, so why not take them now? Of course remember "(mind)set and setting". If it takes a month until you have that just right then wait, they'll still be there.


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5804132 - 06/29/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have experience with psychedelics, just not mushrooms.

So I harvested 7g wet (0.7g dried equiv) and ate them. After 45 minutes, ...wow.

I figured "fuckit" and harvested another 25g wet (2.5g dried equiv) and ate those too.

I am no longer a shroom virgin.

And ya know, they don't taste bad at ALL. In fact they kinda just taste like regular mushrooms. I wonder what they'd be like sauteed...

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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5804168 - 06/29/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Jesus H. Christ. ... Now I see what all the fuss is about.

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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5804448 - 06/29/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hahahhahahaahahaa, 10 minutes later and "jesus h. chris... now i see what all the fuss is about"... hahahaha, that's awesome man, congrats on your medicinal mushroom cherry popping... hahahah

have fun!


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5804523 - 06/29/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hahah Spliff! Have fun man!

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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: cappa]
    #5805285 - 06/30/06 12:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Enjoy my friend and may the gods guide you on your journey of sights and sounds. Peace


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: splifner180]
    #5805335 - 06/30/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

splifner180 said:
Jesus H. Christ. ... Now I see what all the fuss is about.

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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: kilroy]
    #5805338 - 06/30/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ROFL that's awesome..


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: cappa]
    #5805419 - 06/30/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

> Jesus H. Christ. ... Now I see what all the fuss is about.

And we have another true convert! Can I get an "amen" to that?


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: fastfred]
    #5805502 - 06/30/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No more from splif.
He must be messed up :shroomer:


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: UnderNose]
    #5805592 - 06/30/06 01:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it would be cool if someone did the alcohol extraction method with x grams of aborts and the same of mature mushrooms. unless i am mistaken, you could then compare amount of crystals you get and make an estimate of the relation between age and potency. right?


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Re: Significant Difference in Potency? [Re: CantiSama]
    #5805635 - 06/30/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Not unless you have a scale that can measure sub-milligram amounts accurately.

Check this out. It's the easiest way (besides bioassaying) to determine potency.

The Measure of the Mushroom (from PM&E Volume Five)


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