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Offlinetonyperez420
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Casing problems, with pics, please help
    #5802372 - 06/29/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This is what my casing looks like after 6 days

15 1/2 cups vermiculite
15 1/2 cups peat moss
4 1/2 cups flour oyster shell



As far as moisture content goes.... when I held the casing no water dripped, squeezed a little, some water dripped etc... did my research

What can the prob be?

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5802375 - 06/29/06 08:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am thinking about fruiting so that I can at least GETSOME

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5802392 - 06/29/06 08:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I also need to make another casing that has been past due, and want to see what was wrong with this one before I did so...

I just my try a straight up 50/50 and see what happens

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5802397 - 06/29/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

oh yea, I did a PH test and it was a shade under 7.0

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5802405 - 06/29/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I can't really tell from the photos. The casing looks like it should after about 6 days. Are all of the spots bright white or is there some grey or other colors among your white sections?

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: frommoon]
    #5802412 - 06/29/06 08:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

white spots no grey

I will try to upload a better photo

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5802435 - 06/29/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

what are you seeing that we dont?? i see good healthy mycelium so you tell ME what the problem is...? is it because your not getting pins? if your"problem" is with the moisture level thats where you want it, you dont want the casing material to be over saturated you want to to have enough moisture to squeeeze out which is what you have so thats not a problem... if you question is if you have a contam i dont see one so theres no problem... please be a little more specific...

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: AliceDee]
    #5802643 - 06/29/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hmm how many days does it take for a casing to become fully colonized?

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: AliceDee]
    #5802940 - 06/29/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

AliceDee said:
what are you seeing that we dont?? i see good healthy mycelium so you tell ME what the problem is...?  is it because your not getting pins?  if your"problem" is with the moisture level thats where you want it, you dont want the casing material to be over saturated you want to to have enough moisture to squeeeze out which is what you have so thats not a problem...  if you question is if you have a contam i dont see one so theres no problem... please be a little more specific...




I am not fruiting yet

this is 6 days after casing today is 7

I was wondering how long should it take for my substrate to colonize or should I try to fruit it as it is? :mushroom2:

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5803274 - 06/29/06 01:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I may have figured out the problem... I may have cased too early....

I used 2 1/2 gallon spawn jars mixed with 1 mini bale of straw from mycosupply.

12 days passed and I cased. Is that too early?

After pasteurization, I drained for about 3 hours. Maybe the moisture content of my straw is not precise so it may have slowed the spawning process.

Anyhow, I must tweek out my procedure

If anybody can think of anything else, It would be my pleasure to read it....

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5803278 - 06/29/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

that tray should be in an FC by now.

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: frommoon]
    #5803320 - 06/29/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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frommoon said:
that tray should be in an FC by now.




Are you sure?!?!

I thought the casing should be 90% + colonized before adding humidity and light

Can another experienced grower post their opinion please!

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5803358 - 06/29/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

7days incubating a casing and thats what you got....how thick is the casing ontop of cakes? maybe taking a little longer to come through a thick layer.

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: HarvestTheBrain]
    #5803365 - 06/29/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, if you can get a pic of the whole thing so we can see the whole top layer there, that might help make a decision too

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5803373 - 06/29/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

IMO the fact that you have myc on the top of your tray already in fairly good looking random coverage indicates that your ready for the FC. The rest will colonize in the FC or even better than that - start to pin just below the top of the casing. If that is what you have after 6 days then it could take another 4 for 90% top coverage. I have never heard any recommendations for incubating trays for 10 days. I am getting into trays myself so lets see what some of the pros say. good luck.

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5803452 - 06/29/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

that casing should have been put into the fruiting chamber as soon as the mycelium first started coming through the top of the casing layer.

so yes it should be already in the fruiting chamber!~

:smile:


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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: Roadkill]
    #5803478 - 06/29/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It looks unanimous... GOT WORK TO DO!!!!

Quote:

Roadkill said:
that casing should have been put into the fruiting chamber as soon as the mycelium first started coming through the top of the casing layer.

so yes it should be already in the fruiting chamber!~

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tc




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thank you everybody

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Re: Casing problems, with pics, please help [Re: Roadkill]
    #5806294 - 06/30/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Roadkill said:
that casing should have been put into the fruiting chamber as soon as the mycelium first started coming through the top of the casing layer.



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