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cobweb mold?
    #5799530 - 06/28/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hey
theres this slightly gray stuff in my cake, that looks like a cobweb
can anyone tell me what it is?

this is it on the 7th day






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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5799546 - 06/28/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Doesn't seem like cobweb to me, cobweb is usually fluffier. The substrate does look a little dry, might want to case that soon.


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: Zwieback0]
    #5799565 - 06/28/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It is starting to pin to. Should he case it if its already pinning?


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5799574 - 06/28/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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theres this slightly gray stuff in my jar, that looks like a cobweb





trick question?

I don't see a jar!~

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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: Roadkill]
    #5799709 - 06/28/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sorry, didnt know the english terms for it
a cake i mean


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5799734 - 06/28/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It looks fine man but its somtimes hard to tell from a picture if you are still worried about it spray some H202 on it.. or maybe on the whole thing because it does look a bit dry


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: Zwieback0]
    #5799833 - 06/28/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Doesn't seem like cobweb to me, cobweb is usually fluffier.  The substrate does look a little dry, might want to case that soon.




I tend to agree :thumbup: That sub is really dry :thumbdown: It's already shrinking from the sides and it's not even done colonizing . By the time it's done colonizing , it won't have much water left to produce fruit bodies , which are 90-92 percent water .

What are you doing ? Do you have it wrapped ? What are the conditions ?

I'd wrap it in some saran wrap with a few poked holes in it to help prevent so much water loss to evaporation , if I were you .

I'd probably dunk it after colonizing to replace some moisture before fruiting .

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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5799883 - 06/28/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well, the conditions are fine
i sprayed it with distilled water in the beginning
its inside a box, with water at the bottom and a "heater" inside the water, turned to 25° celcius (don't know how much that is in fahrenheit)
what should i do?
should i spray it again?


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5799919 - 06/28/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Is it covered ?

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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5799935 - 06/28/06 04:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Here is some cobweb,


For your viewing pleasure :wink:


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5800013 - 06/28/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Is it covered ?





the box you mean?
yes, it is closed
you can see the moisture on the inner side
should i spray it again?
how can i make it moist, without harming or contaminating anything?


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5800026 - 06/28/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

IMO, this casing looks very unhealthy and I'd be surprised if it produces fruits. It doesn't look like cobweb, but doesnt look like healthy mycelium either - not only is it dried out, but its sort of discolored and it looks angry about something.  :eek: I would rehydrate by just spraying some sterile water on the top and on sides... Or dunk it. This is all just speculation, I'd love if you proved me wrong with some healthy fruits :smile:

Hopefully things will look up. I'd start a new project at this point, though. Good luck :smile:

EDIT: also, I think your humidity might be too high - which might be the reason for the condensation all over the very... stringy mycelium. Lower humidity, give it some hydration.


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5800032 - 06/28/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Like Snaggletooth pointed out, cobweb looks a bit different. IMO your picture doesn't show cobweb.

I don't know this from personal experience but I've been told that a light misting of 3% H2O2 will cause the white stuff to dissolve IF it is cobweb.

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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: LateForTheFuture]
    #5800067 - 06/28/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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IMO, this casing looks very unhealthy and I'd be surprised if it produces fruits. It doesn't look like cobweb, but doesnt look like healthy mycelium either - not only is it dried out, but its sort of discolored and it looks angry about something.  :eek: I would rehydrate by just spraying some sterile water on the top and on sides... Or dunk it. This is all just speculation, I'd love if you proved me wrong with some healthy fruits :smile:

Hopefully things will look up. I'd start a new project at this point, though. Good luck :smile:

EDIT: also, I think your humidity might be too high - which might be the reason for the condensation all over the very... stringy mycelium. Lower humidity, give it some hydration.




on the last pic, i see a small shroom appearing
does spraying again harm the upcoming shrooms?


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5800087 - 06/28/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

epilectric writes:
"on the last pic, i see a small shroom appearing does spraying again harm the upcoming shrooms?"

I've heard three basic answers to this question.

(a) It stalls them a tiny bit.

(b) It won't cause any problem at all.

(c) It stalls the pins but they seem to bounce back twice as hearty.

I don't know which is true but I'd certainly give them a superfine mist. If you're worried about the pins, try applying some 3% H2O2 solution to the suspected cobweb mold with a syringe.

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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: splifner180]
    #5800184 - 06/28/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so what should i do?
spray it at the outer sides or leave it?


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5800212 - 06/28/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

HippieChick said:
Is it covered ?





the box you mean?
yes, it is closed
you can see the moisture on the inner side
should i spray it again?
how can i make it moist, without harming or contaminating anything?




No .

Is the casing itself covered ? or just sitting inside the box ?

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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: splifner180]
    #5801485 - 06/29/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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epilectric writes:
"on the last pic, i see a small shroom appearing does spraying again harm the upcoming shrooms?"

I've heard three basic answers to this question.

(a) It stalls them a tiny bit.

(b) It won't cause any problem at all.

(c) It stalls the pins but they seem to bounce back twice as hearty.

I don't know which is true but I'd certainly give them a superfine mist. If you're worried about the pins, try applying some 3% H2O2 solution to the suspected cobweb mold with a syringe.

splif




If its colonizing the h2o2 will kill off some cells as they are producing which gives the appearance of "stalling"

If its done colonizing it wont stall anything. Just kill off a few cells of mycelium. The reason it appears to "bounce back" is sometimes this damage to the mycelium make it desperate to release spores before it gets damaged further, its a normal survival instinct so to speak.


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5801810 - 06/29/06 01:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You are ready to fruit.

You do not need to put a fruiting substrate in warm water. The heat from the water is causing your substrate to lose moisture and pull away from the walls of the container. If you were trying to incubate it, you should have had some foil or plastic wrap on that thing to hold the moisture in.

Turn off your heater, moisten your substrate, fruit it out.

Other than that, it looks good for a pure seed casing.


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: cappa]
    #5802295 - 06/29/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

some people told me, i should "dunk" it
what is meant by that?


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5803870 - 06/29/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hold it underwater in a fridge for 12-24 hours. That is what they meant.

The idea is to get more moisture in that bad boy.

BTW, you're confusing a few terms. Although what you have is in a cake pan it is not considered a 'cake'.

You have a potential 'casing' right there. I would read up on it in the guides section. A seed tray like that benefits greatly from a casing layer.


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: HoleSnype]
    #5803883 - 06/29/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It is starting to pin to. Should he case it if its already pinning?




From my experience... yes.



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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5949662 - 08/10/06 02:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

hey
this cake now has several grey to black stains
it smells fine though
when i dunked it, the water turned orange
anything to worry about?


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Re: cobweb mold? [Re: epilectric]
    #5949720 - 08/10/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

grey and black is not good.i would just start over with a new healthy grow.


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