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being alone
    #5798627 - 06/28/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

How would you feel about living your entire life alone, having no family or having no sexual relationship with anyone.
Exept for friends that you see from time to time or hang out with sometimes.

How would you feel in your 30's, in your 50's and how would you feel if you were an old man?


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5798649 - 06/28/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Nursing homes were invented to "deal with" people who grow old and unable to help themselves. It could be worse, you get to be wheeled around from the cell to the dining area where you can drool in your food and stare blankly out into space...


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Re: being alone [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5798714 - 06/28/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Nursing homes were invented to "deal with" people who grow old and unable to help themselves. It could be worse, you get to be wheeled around from the cell to the dining area where you can drool in your food and stare blankly out into space...




I a bit confused by what you are trying to say. I asked how would you feel living alone (and in your own home)?


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5798716 - 06/28/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I once read a book about a guy who deliberately went to a deserted island and lived there for many years alone. He liked it much. Only poor health forced his leaving ( and the govt. that owned the island)

I'm one of those people who do very well alone. I had an isolated childhood and so got used to living alone with myself early on. That may have lots to do with it.


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Re: being alone [Re: Icelander]
    #5798744 - 06/28/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

true loneliness is death


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5798756 - 06/28/06 09:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I spent most of my early twenties alone while the people around me were all having orgies and shit. 

If I can handle that, I can handle anything. 

Of course, I would prefer not to be alone. 

Being alone sucks.  But I can take it :grin:


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Re: being alone [Re: capliberty]
    #5798757 - 06/28/06 09:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

How the hell would you know?


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Re: being alone [Re: Icelander]
    #5798777 - 06/28/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

cause I've seen it


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Re: being alone [Re: capliberty]
    #5798811 - 06/28/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Really? You have died and come back? Please share.


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Re: being alone [Re: Icelander]
    #5798853 - 06/28/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

just about everyone has died and been reincarnated.

most of them just don't remember.


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5798972 - 06/28/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The first step towards accepting others is to accept the self. A few years of being alone would be excellent training for life. I enjoy my own company immensely. Loneliness has nothing to do with being alone.


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Re: being alone [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5799178 - 06/28/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I know a few people who DESPERATELY need to be alone.

some people are so addicted to other people it hurts them.

They have all these opportunities to be with others, so they are never alone.

sad, really. Being alone has given me some of the greatest wisdom I have. Its sad to think that some people deny themselves this wisdom because they are afraid to be by themselves for awhile.


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799205 - 06/28/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you never had anyone all your life, and you never came across peoples ideas that we are suppost to be with/have someone.
Then maybe you wouldn't know what you are missing.

Ignorance through lack of knowledge might actually be bliss in that case.

How that person would turn out is impossible to say.
Many lessons are learnt through other peoples actions.


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799555 - 06/28/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I spent most of my early twenties alone while the people around me were all having orgies and shit. 

If I can handle that, I can handle anything. 

Of course, I would prefer not to be alone. 

Being alone sucks.  But I can take it :grin:




That's called devine justice...

Devine justice is some sort of poethic irony, and its satisfaction is in its irony

When you have one leg and you get beaten, when you are hungry and the rich guy claims your lottery winnings based on the fact that he payed for your lottery ticket, when you wisper a funny thing to some guy and he yells it out and gets the laughs for himself, when you want love and they hate you, when someone uses you to get into the pants of a girl you are in love with, when you lose your job because someone placed the blame on your to save himself, when you are alergic to your favorite food, when a painter goes blind

that's devine justice, it is funny, it is ironic, and it is as it should be, and one can be trained to feel satisfaction in it as with "regular" justice, which is an illusion


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5799563 - 06/28/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

fuck that.

"Divine Justice's" sick little jokes shall soon come to an end.  Who the fuck does he think he is?  I have a mind to give him a taste of his own medicine.  Perhaps I'll strike down upon him with great vengeance and furious anger :lol:


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799589 - 06/28/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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fuck that.

"Divine Justice's" sick little jokes shall soon come to an end.  Who the fuck does he think he is?  I have a mind to give him a taste of his own medicine.  Perhaps I'll strike down upon him with great vengeance and furious anger :lol:




you can blow wind in his ass because either he doesn't exist, or does and is so powerfull that you are like a little ant

By the way, it is justice because in the next world it is reversed. He who wins and conquers you in this world will be conquered himself in the next, by cold earth as he perishes to dust like a roadkill dried on the sun


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5799610 - 06/28/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, I know all that, but I've been conquered repeatedly in other lifetimes without reward, so I'm a little anxious to collect. Expecting a big payoff real soon.

and yeah, his lessons can be tragically hilarious, but I've learned so many of them that I feel lke I'm about ready to graduate the school of Justice.

My name is Justin, BTW.


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5799620 - 06/28/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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...having no sexual relationship with anyone.
Exept for friends that you see from time to time or hang out with sometimes.





By "friends" do you mean that you would have access to whores?


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799621 - 06/28/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah, I know all that, but I've been conquered repeatedly in other lifetimes without reward, so I'm a little anxious to collect. Expecting a big payoff real soon.

and yeah, his lessons can be tragically hilarious, but I've learned so many of them that I feel lke I'm about ready to graduate the school of Justice.

My name is Justin, BTW.




Don't be so sure reincarnation exists. If you believe in that sort of things, a lot of NDE experiences reported that beings toled them there is no reincarnation, only collective memory. One case in particular mentions that it has been said by Jesus himself.


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Re: being alone [Re: mr_kite]
    #5799629 - 06/28/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
...having no sexual relationship with anyone.
Exept for friends that you see from time to time or hang out with sometimes.





By "friends" do you mean that you would have access to whores?




No, I ment firends like friends..

and as for whores, ok, but no regular ones..


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5799636 - 06/28/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think its different for different beings. 

also, not everyone comes back to Earth.  There are many other places to go.  Most of them are much more fun than here :wink:

I've been reincarnating on earth off and on for quite some time now, trying to win a battle.  I think its in the final stages right now, so hopefully I'll be able to move on soon.


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799651 - 06/28/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I think its different for different beings. 

also, not everyone comes back to Earth.  There are many other places to go.  Most of them are much more fun than here :wink:

I've been reincarnating on earth off and on for quite some time now, trying to win a battle.  I think its in the final stages right now, so hopefully I'll be able to move on soon.




Accoarding to the Bible, you are in for a PERMANENT incarnation on earth one day, so better get use to the smell


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799655 - 06/28/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I know that I would be able to handle being alone like that for an extended period. I also was alone most of my childhood, and I think that does have a lot to do with it. Learning to be able to be by yourself is a skill just like being able to relate to other people is a skill. You learn both only by practice, and really you have to have some balance between being with others and being with yourself, I think.
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The story goes, or the way that I was told
There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
But here’s the thing, they came back with a ring
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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799656 - 06/28/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I've been reincarnating on earth off and on for quite some time now, trying to win a battle. I think its in the final stages right now, so hopefully I'll be able to move on soon.




We're all with you J. I'm glad you're so aware of you're bigger purpose and I wish you all the best in escaping from this miserable globe.


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5799660 - 06/28/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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mr_kite said:
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OldWoodSpecter said:
...having no sexual relationship with anyone.
Exept for friends that you see from time to time or hang out with sometimes.





By "friends" do you mean that you would have access to whores?




No, I ment firends like friends..

and as for whores, ok, but no regular ones..




If I wasn't with a girl I loved then I'd miss sex more than company. I like my own company. However much more than that I'd miss being with the girl I loved. I don't work so well on my own..


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Re: being alone [Re: mr_kite]
    #5799673 - 06/28/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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mr_kite said:
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DoctorJ said:
I've been reincarnating on earth off and on for quite some time now, trying to win a battle.  I think its in the final stages right now, so hopefully I'll be able to move on soon.




We're all with you J. I'm glad you're so aware of you're bigger purpose and I wish you all the best in escaping from this miserable globe.




thanks, man, that means a lot :heart:

hopefully I can let a few others out while I'm here. 

When I'm at home in space, I always get calls from my friends here on earth

"Dude, man, I totally got stuck on Earth!  Can you believe it?  These asshole are holding me here and I can't leave!  Come bail me out!"

:lol:


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799700 - 06/28/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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thanks, man, that means a lot :heart:

hopefully I can let a few others out while I'm here. 

When I'm at home in space, I always get calls from my friends here on earth

"Dude, man, I totally got stuck on Earth!  Can you believe it?  These asshole are holding me here and I can't leave!  Come bail me out!"

:lol:




What a guy. Would you describe yourself as some sort of inter-galactical Mother Teresa?


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Re: being alone [Re: mr_kite]
    #5799723 - 06/28/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

nah, I wouldn't want that much credit.  Its not like I'm not going to get repaid by my friends for bailin them out :wink:  I'll do a friend a favor, but my favors ain't free :lol:  So I wouldn't want to make myself seem all magnanimous, because my magnanimousness does have its limits :smile:

Mother Teresa is one of my personal heroes, though.  Fucking badass lady, she was.  Truly one of God's mighty warriors.


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799764 - 06/28/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Which reminds me..

The relationship between me and god is like this:

I am a mouse in a labyrinth and I'm supose to find the exit,
but I'm such a weak little mouse who has problems with persisting in this task.
So I go a couple of cm's then I sort of say: nah, screw this, I can't find a way out, then I find a hole and hide inside.
The god flushes me out of the hole with some kind of a shock, first I'm scared, then I'm pissed, then scared again, and then I give up and say, ok I'll go on, I can't stand this any longer.
Then I go a couple of more CM's and find another hole, then comes another flushing out, and so on.
God never stops flushing me out of confortable holes for the sake of finding the exit out of the maze.
My faith that I'll find the exit lasts only a couple of seconds after I decide to go on, then I just walk and look for another hole...
On the exit is cheese, and the shock that god keeps flushing me out with is hunger for cheese. But I'm such a fucked up mouse that if it weren't for the flushings I'd let the stomach acid burn a hole in my belly before I went to look for the chese.
Such a difficult mouse I am.


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5799775 - 06/28/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

death is one exit.

ascension another.

or you can build yourself a rocket ship.

:smile:


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Re: being alone [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5799782 - 06/28/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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death is one exit.

ascension another.

or you can build yourself a rocket ship.

:smile:




look at the edit:

on the exit is chese. The exit of the maze is not the end of life, but the end of the fight, then comes another one after that, another maze


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5799802 - 06/28/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have a close friend who can't be alone. She has made many mistakes and it has almost cost her more than she ever imagined because of it.

I've never really been completely alone, but I don't have many people, if anyone, around me most times. There are times I wish I wasn't alone, and there are times when I don't think I could live with someone else. Very rarely, though, would I consider myself lonely. This may be cliche, but you have to find the happy medium.


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Re: being alone [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5800681 - 06/28/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I a bit confused by what you are trying to say. I asked how would you feel living alone (and in your own home)?

Well I live with a siamese cat who is excellent company. He doesn't say much which is fine with me. And I am in my own home.

How would living alone without my cat make me feel? Sad.

People are great but their company can get tedious at best so I don't mind being with my cat in my own home and watching the beautiful sunset.

My point with the nursing home is that sooner or later (unless you get lucky enough to die in your own home) most people get old and end up dropped off at some nursing home by their kids who visit once a month. Maybe.


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Re: being alone [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5800721 - 06/28/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, most elderly people do not end up in nursing homes. Approximately 1/3 - 1/2 of elderly who become disabled & unable to care for themselves will enter a nursing home. That means that 1/2 - 2/3 either live alone & care for themselves, or are cared for by relatives.

Personally, if I got to the point where I could not feed myself or control my bowels, I'd check out. This would stand whether my boys were willing to take care of me or not. I would much rather be independent throughout my lifetime, and say "sayonara" when my autonomy ended.


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Re: being alone [Re: Veritas]
    #5800737 - 06/28/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I need people to tell me im alive every now and then, but not as often as others.


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Re: being alone [Re: Veritas]
    #5800825 - 06/28/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Same here... preperation of a wooden Viking ship would be at hand, and I would be sent off in it, on a fjord, with it in flames...

If I was ever going to consciously die... I think it would be the same scenario, but involving a lot of acid, or something. If I'm going to die in minutes, the flames won't matter... :grin:

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Re: being alone [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5800836 - 06/28/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Have you ever read Helen Nearing's account of her husband's voluntary death? It's pretty astounding.

http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC26/Nearing.htm

This link also includes an essay she wrote called "Going It Alone," about her self-sufficient life as a widow.


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Re: being alone [Re: Veritas]
    #5800857 - 06/28/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No I haven't, and, hopefully it stays that way.


:lol:

*bookmarks it for later, tired as fuck, which is usually evidenced when I become delirious.... should have seen me at work today :lol:*

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For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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Re: being alone [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5800867 - 06/28/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:  Rest well, valiant retail warrior.


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Re: being alone [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5800870 - 06/28/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just read it quick, was too intrigued to pass it up. Great stuff, very powerful imagery...

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Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: being alone [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5800879 - 06/28/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They were the Uber-couple.  She lived another 12 years on her own in their remote cabin.  :thumbup:


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