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frostbitten
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salvia not working? or have i been mislead..
#5797440 - 06/27/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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so i've read and heard some stories about salvia and they all involve extreme trips, level 5 stuff. each is about insane things happening like drawing rectangles in a world of static or having tentacles come out of your head. for all of them they did 1 hit of 10x salvia. so in trying to trip as much as these people i bought 3 grams of 10x salvia offline. i got it in the mail yesterday and prepared to smoke that night with my bowl at my friend's house. i smoked at least a gram of the 10x with the bowl and all that happened was an immediate stoning and a really gradual come-down for about an hour. i didnt trip at all. my 3 friends all got stoned too, one might have been tripping a little. one really good thing that the salvia helped us do was tell my friend we think he's literally gay. i guess it helped us understand it better. whatever.
why can i not trip on salvia? im going to try smoking some more tonight in pure darkness and lay in my bed with some mellow music playing. then tomorrow i'm going to make a salvia spliff and try that.
EDIT: spliff*
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: frostbitten]
#5797452 - 06/27/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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salvia sliff? whats that?
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5797454 - 06/27/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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check related threads--lots of info on technique Peace
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frostbitten
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: pod3]
#5797494 - 06/27/06 10:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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can you use a vaporizer with salvia? my friend who was the one who i think might have been tripping used a vaporizer in the beginning before switching to the bowl later. also i always just smoke the embering salvia, i only light it in the beginning.
EDIT: is a bong a must? also note that i broke my bowl after we finished smoking but were still high, don't know why that happened.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: pod3]
#5797646 - 06/27/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess technique really is a problem that some people can't grasp. You don't smoke salvia like grass, you gotta constantly bake the packed bowl and hold the smoke in until reality starts to crumble. Then you take your second hit. If you don't have a Zippo, get a Bic lighter and crack the top off and make the flame larger and roast the flame on the salvia until your hit is done. If you don't like the taste, a water bong will filter it out.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: mellowrubberduck]
#5797680 - 06/27/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mellowrubberduck said: I guess technique really is a problem that some people can't grasp. You don't smoke salvia like grass, you gotta constantly bake the packed bowl and hold the smoke in until reality starts to crumble. Then you take your second hit. If you don't have a Zippo, get a Bic lighter and crack the top off and make the flame larger and roast the flame on the salvia until your hit is done. If you don't like the taste, a water bong will filter it out.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5798207 - 06/28/06 01:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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there is also the fact that sometimes it takes poeple a while to feel the effects no matter how much they smoke. the more often you do it the less you'll need i've been told.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: truekimbo2]
#5798311 - 06/28/06 03:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Or you possibly got a bad extract. Maybe its claimed to be a higher extract than it is. You do need to take large hits, as large as you can handle and hold it in until you can no longer hold it. Then if you can.. take another hit and do the same. Go buy you a torch lighter. Also I have heard that some people just aren't affected buy salvia. You could be one of those people. But if you and all of your friends felt the same. Then it is possible that you have a bad extract or just didn't smoke it correctly
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: frostbitten]
#5798330 - 06/28/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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frostbitten said: also i always just smoke the embering salvia, i only light it in the beginning.
That's the problem. I use just a regular lighter, but you CAN NOT, at ANY TIME, let it just ember there. Always, always have a flame on it.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: shroomanic]
#5798352 - 06/28/06 03:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's the problem. I use just a regular lighter, but you CAN NOT, at ANY TIME, let it just ember there. Always, always have a flame on it.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: frostbitten]
#5798574 - 06/28/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi frostbitten  I find it only works if I use a bong, hold the flame on the material until it's all burnt then hold the smoke for at least 20seconds. I've also met people who can get no effect no matter what technique they use! Sometimes I think she chooses who she lets in on the secret  inski.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: inski]
#5798579 - 06/28/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel sorry for people who smoke and smoke and smoke it but get no effects. I stood outside and took one big hit, held it in, and before I could step back through the door, I was gone.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: frostbitten]
#5799046 - 06/28/06 11:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i smoked at least a gram of the 10x with the bowl and all that happened was an immediate stoning and a really gradual come-down for about an hour.
a whole gram of 10x??? holy crap, that would last me months!
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: mellowrubberduck]
#5801817 - 06/29/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mellowrubberduck said: I guess technique really is a problem that some people can't grasp. You don't smoke salvia like grass, you gotta constantly bake the packed bowl and hold the smoke in until reality starts to crumble. Then you take your second hit.
what he said. I would smoke salvia out of a waterbong if I were you to get the hits I wanted. Hold your breath and just forget to breathe . . . You'll wake up like someone hit you with a brick (atleast I did, not knowing where I was. . or who I was. I have a lot of the 40x salvia still left actually. there is a small percentage of people that aren't affected by salvia at all, but given that your friends didn't trip whatsoever, I'd say it's your technique. Better luck next time -paz
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: drijx]
#5803911 - 06/29/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Last night I smoked a 5th of a gram of 20x, and felt slightly almost nothing. I used a bong. I held the lighter, I took large hits and held it in for a good 25-30 seconds. I took more bong hits, and more. Still nothing. It was the first time I've ever tried it, and it was from a reliable source. Huh!?!?
I have half a gram left of 20x. I'll try again tonight.
Edited by thehandtruck (06/29/06 04:40 PM)
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deadheadjpc2000
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: thehandtruck]
#5803946 - 06/29/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Try going waterless, either pipe or empty bong. Might be the difference. G/L and Peace
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
#5805461 - 06/30/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why would that do anything?
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: thehandtruck]
#5805880 - 06/30/06 03:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inhale as much air as you can, exhale even more and then take a huge hit. Remember that you need to use your lighter even when salvia is lit. It needs high temperature to vaporise Salvinorin A. One hit is enough to be blasted away.
If it don't works then maybe you should wait a while or try meditation before giving it another try. Dark, silence and calm mind could be your key to her world. Just treat her with respect
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: Kras]
#5806146 - 06/30/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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the spliff idea is not for getting stronger effects it is more casual and weaker.
i agree with most of the gist here, you must have got a weaker preparation than normal in the mail.
try one of the site sponsors here. and be cautious with each new batch. e.g. what if you actually got plain leaf mislabelled as 10x, and then you got 20x to make up for it.
it would be emberassing to say the least once you return and probably hell while you are lost.
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: redgreenvines]
#5806365 - 06/30/06 09:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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dont have time to read all this shit but i guess you got ripped off. they should have a sticky on posts like this, so many times asked before.
Get your shit from a quality online vendor like iamshaman.com
ps. whats that shit i hear you cant smoke salvia in a joint? I had once some strong mexican sally leaves and i got off on a fat joint of that
but i wouldnt go about smoking joints bong is so much better
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Re: salvia not working? or have i been mislead.. [Re: Jalruza]
#5806535 - 06/30/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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so sometimes salvia leaves just fall off and then I roll joints from them [Re: redgreenvines]
#5807019 - 06/30/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well after work my sunny balcony needed a little visitor, so I pulled out the salvia joint that got flat over the the past week in my pants pocket and so I lit the thing up with very low expectations, five puffs in I was definitely talking to myself (but is that really any different?) and then I remembered to hold it in.
The next three puffs were held in properly, and the warm Canadian balcony became a red desert wonderland, with me - a desert elf, poking his head into the other side, just so we would not be alienated.
Low level 4 Who said joints don’t work? All alone, it’s a fine way to spend a half hour, and the afterglow is what it is. nice
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Re: so sometimes salvia leaves just fall off and then I roll joints from them [Re: redgreenvines]
#5807363 - 06/30/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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An elf? I see gnomes. I've heard about someone writing about clowns...
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