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So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza?
    #5796691 - 06/27/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/27/israel.soldier/index.html

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Israeli troops crossed the border into southern Gaza early Wednesday in a campaign meant to secure the return of a soldier kidnapped by Palestinian militants over the weekend, the Israeli military said.

Jets hit a power plant in Gaza City and knocked out a bridge connecting the northern and southern parts of town in predawn airstrikes, witnesses said.

Video from the Palestinian Ramattan news agency showed fires burning at the site of the power station.

Israeli troops and tanks had gathered along the Gaza border as tensions mounted over the abduction of 19-year-old Cpl. Gilad Shalit.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Tuesday threatened an "extended campaign" against Palestinian leaders unless the soldier was released.

"All targets" would be considered for possible action, Olmert told Israel's parliament, the day after ruling out any deals with militants for Shalit's release.

"We would not make compromises with terror. We would not hold negotiation with [terror]," Olmert told the Knesset amid the escalating crisis.

"No terrorist would be immune."

In the first round of strikes soon after midnight, Israeli aircraft hit two bridges in central Gaza to limit the ability of Shalit's captors to move him, said Capt. Jacob Dallal, a spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces.

Dallal said Israel will go to "whatever lengths necessary" to bring Shalit back.

"We are trying to make it clear to the Palestinian Authority and to the terror organizations that we will take the necessary steps to secure his safe return," he said.

Israel has slapped a land and sea blockade on Gaza, cutting off people's movements and shipments of fuel and food, nine months after returning control of the territory to the Palestinians. (Watch tanks mass as tensions run high -- 2:27)

Inside Gaza, Palestinians have dumped piles of sand on major roads, intended to slow any advance of Israeli tanks and armor and provide cover for gunmen.

Israel says it is holding the Palestinian Authority responsible for the safety of Shalit, who was captured Sunday by Palestinian militants at a guard post inside Israel.

Olmert said he did not want to hurt innocents, but the Israeli defense minister said the potential offensive would be deadly.

"There is no doubt we will have to carry out an operation which could cost many lives, but the Palestinian groups have to understand there is a price to pay for any attacks against Israel," said Defense Minister Amir Peretz.

Israeli leaders said Hamas officials, including political leader Khaled Meshaal, who is in exile in Syria, could be targets of Israeli military action.

Aides said Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya were directly involved in negotiations to free Shalit.

The Palestinian factions Fatah, headed by Abbas, and Haniya's Hamas, have pleaded with Israel to hold off on military action, saying an offensive would only complicate efforts to end the crisis.

Palestinian leaders have also said they fear Israel will not stop at freeing Shalit but will also go after Palestinian militants who have fired hundreds of crude Qassam rockets into Israel in recent months.

Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres recognized a split between the politicians and the militants, saying Meshaal was behind the kidnapping and "wants to destroy any chance for peace." (Watch Peres' take on the escalating border tensions -- 6:27)

"All this was done against, maybe, the better judgment of the Palestinian leaders on the ground. The orders came from Syria. They came from a gentleman who wants to destroy any chance for peace," Peres said.

Meshaal, the head of the Hamas political office, lives in exile in Damascus.

"A small group of terrible people sitting in Damascus," Peres said, was mobilizing "the whole world against the Palestinians," who he said were the real victims of the kidnapping.

Peres said Israel believes that Shalit, who holds dual Israeli-French citizenship, is "alive and healthy."
Another teenager reported missing

In another development, the Popular Resistance Committees, one of the Palestinian militant groups that says it is holding Shalit, said it also was holding an Israeli settler in the West Bank.

Israeli police said a family in the settlement of Itamar near Nablus had filed a missing persons report. The missing settler was identified as Eliyahu Asheri, 18.

He was last seen Sunday night at the French Hill hitchhiking post in Jerusalem, on the road leading north to the West Bank. His parents reported him missing at noon Monday.

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Anyone else think they're using a cover story of a kidnapping to have an excuse to start some shit?  :crazy:


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5796705 - 06/27/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

same old shit, new century/millennium...

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Nashbar]
    #5796719 - 06/27/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah... they really never do all that much, this shows the possibility of being different, but i doubt it..


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5796758 - 06/27/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well i was wrong, major attack under way

all power out in gaza as the power plant was fired upon, with missiles, from israel,

" GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) -- Israeli troops entered southern Gaza and planes attacked two bridges and a power station, knocking out electricity in most of the coastal strip early Wednesday and stepping up the pressure on Palestinian militants holding captive a 19-year-old Israeli soldier.

Israeli troops began taking up positions in two locations east of the Gaza town of Rafah under the cover of tank shells, according to witnesses and Palestinian security officials. Palestinians dug in behind mounds of dirt, bracing for a major Israeli offensive.
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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Nashbar]
    #5796769 - 06/27/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Exactly.

And what was that incident a few weeks ago where those civilians were killed on the beach?  Were those Palestinians?

This may be more than just a flare up.  I kinda get that sense, but what what the hell do I know? :grin:


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5796776 - 06/27/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what the hell, this is seemingly absent on cnn, cnn HN, Cltv, and fox news, not to mention yahoo's front page news as well.

i got my info over at www.drudgereport.com

apparently israeli radio is reporting what i pasted above...


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5796787 - 06/27/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Abcnews.com has the same info you just posted.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2126193


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5796789 - 06/27/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hey, at least "they" aren't killing all the males, raping the women and trying to assimilate the "enemy". Maybe conditions have improved since Jesus or Muhammad times

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Nashbar]
    #5796791 - 06/27/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

why the fuck is this not on cnn??????


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5796795 - 06/27/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

no shit, I've got the Twins on the big screen, searching for explosions and shooting on the news channels.

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5796796 - 06/27/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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why the fuck is this not on cnn??????





I hope you mean the actual news channel and not their website.  :tongue2:


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5796798 - 06/27/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes i do


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5796895 - 06/27/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I used to think the answer to this whole thing was to nuke the whole area into a glass crater. I thought that they would have nothing to fight over after that, but now I realize they would fight over the crater. Them peoples loves fightin'.


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: EmperorKuzco]
    #5796901 - 06/27/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Both them peoples think it's sacred land, so you're right, they would fight over the glass crater.  :smile:


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5796998 - 06/27/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

We've got it on our news channels. Plus full coverage on non-news channels like global at 11pm


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Gillette]
    #5797022 - 06/27/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Larry King Live can not eat my balls

Edited by Nashbar (06/27/06 09:26 PM)

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Nashbar]
    #5797298 - 06/27/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Now why would you want that?  :smirk:


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5797349 - 06/27/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

good point, larry king can eat the balls of some author that was talking...

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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5797386 - 06/27/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I dont understand.

This is all horrible.We are doomed as a species.But most of us here already knew that.

Whats the deal with syria?Are they getting thrown into this?What is there take on it?And what is there position with the "war" in Iraq?

I have a close friend in Domascus right now visiting family.I guess I could ask her those questions.


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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5798453 - 06/28/06 05:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

israel takes kidnapes VERY VERY seriusly and wants to "tell" the world and it's citizens that they won't hold back untill they get their people back!

on the one hand being born and raised in israel i TOTALLY understand and agree with it, on the other i could NEVER find any reason to throw millions of dollars worth of smart bombs on crappy shacks, briges or power plants (just for show) it also gets the exect oposit result and breeds more hardship for a place that's already very hard to live in (creating more people who'd like to blow up in a bus :shrug:)

israel can not take things such as kidnapes lying down... it's simply not an option (we're surounded by haters and if we give them the chance we'll have too much shit to deal with)

as far as killing men, raping women and assimilation goes... i sure fucking hope none of that shit is going on in the IDF... i'd like to think that it doesn't but that'd be too naive i can only hope that it's only a few incedents here and there rather then the norm :shrug:

(BTW i have no idea what's going on over here... i don't listen to the news anymore!)


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