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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5807502 - 06/30/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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1. Jews moved out of Gaza 2. Palestinians elected Hamas. 3. Hamas kidnapped an Israeli citizen/solider, by going into the country itself (Israel)
In my book, any government sponsored kidnapping, is an act of WAR. Kill them and be done with it.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5808483 - 07/01/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kidnapping may be an act of war, but it is incredibly foolhardy to use it as a sole reason of invading a country, and also destroying their water systems and electrical grids. To me it looks like Collective punishment, Punish the entire country because of a couple kidnappings.
When FARC rebels in Colombia captured american citizens we didnt invade colombia, when the Iranians in '79 took the us embassy hostages it was worked out diplomatically (considering the fact we indirectly caused the iranian revolution because of backing the Shahs despised SAVAK which brutally reigned over Iranians)
To me its a joke when Israel says "We used all available options" They are flashing their might around the mideast by utterly destroying Gaza and then flying jets over Syrian airspace (And by no means do i support or condone Syria) Which is a violation of sovereignty.
Personally i dont know what organization took part in these kidnappings i heard they were backed by Iranian and Lebanese Hizbollah- according to http://www.memri.org/
Israel defenitely has some covert shit planned. They just better watch out cause that whole area can go off like a powder keg, and i defenitely dont want to see the US dragged into their shit. Which to me i already see happening in the world, Israels nose in our business and everyones business.
The truth is Israel only cares about Israel, Israel has also been spying in this country And could also be complicent in 9/11
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5815384 - 07/03/06 10:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: 1. Jews moved out of Gaza 2. Palestinians elected Hamas. 3. Hamas kidnapped an Israeli citizen/solider, by going into the country itself (Israel)
In my book, any government sponsored kidnapping, is an act of WAR. Kill them and be done with it.
So the government sponsored kidnapping(arrest) of 1000's of palestinians was not an act of war on Israels behalf? Why the double standard?
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#5815392 - 07/03/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said: Kidnapping may be an act of war, but it is incredibly foolhardy to use it as a sole reason of invading a country, and also destroying their water systems and electrical grids. To me it looks like Collective punishment, Punish the entire country because of a couple kidnappings.
When FARC rebels in Colombia captured american citizens we didnt invade colombia, when the Iranians in '79 took the us embassy hostages it was worked out diplomatically (considering the fact we indirectly caused the iranian revolution because of backing the Shahs despised SAVAK which brutally reigned over Iranians)
To me its a joke when Israel says "We used all available options" They are flashing their might around the mideast by utterly destroying Gaza and then flying jets over Syrian airspace (And by no means do i support or condone Syria) Which is a violation of sovereignty.
Personally i dont know what organization took part in these kidnappings i heard they were backed by Iranian and Lebanese Hizbollah- according to <a href="MEMRI" target="_blank">http://www.memri.org/</a>
Israel defenitely has some covert shit planned. They just better watch out cause that whole area can go off like a powder keg, and i defenitely dont want to see the US dragged into their shit. Which to me i already see happening in the world, Israels nose in our business and everyones business.
The truth is Israel only cares about Israel, Israel has also been spying in this country And could also be complicent in 9/11
Finally someone who doesn't rely on the TV for all of their information.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5815450 - 07/03/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#5818367 - 07/04/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said: Kidnapping may be an act of war, but it is incredibly foolhardy to use it as a sole reason of invading a country, and also destroying their water systems and electrical grids. To me it looks like Collective punishment, Punish the entire country because of a couple kidnappings.
When FARC rebels in Colombia captured american citizens we didnt invade colombia, when the Iranians in '79 took the us embassy hostages it was worked out diplomatically (considering the fact we indirectly caused the iranian revolution because of backing the Shahs despised SAVAK which brutally reigned over Iranians)
To me its a joke when Israel says "We used all available options" They are flashing their might around the mideast by utterly destroying Gaza and then flying jets over Syrian airspace (And by no means do i support or condone Syria) Which is a violation of sovereignty.
Personally i dont know what organization took part in these kidnappings i heard they were backed by Iranian and Lebanese Hizbollah- according to <a href="MEMRI" target="_blank">http://www.memri.org/</a>
Israel defenitely has some covert shit planned. They just better watch out cause that whole area can go off like a powder keg, and i defenitely dont want to see the US dragged into their shit. Which to me i already see happening in the world, Israels nose in our business and everyones business.
The truth is Israel only cares about Israel, Israel has also been spying in this country And could also be complicent in 9/11
As much As I respect your thought, I must dissent.....
What would happen if the Mossad kidnapped Palestinians in Hamas????
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5818382 - 07/04/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think that's happened already.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5818885 - 07/04/06 05:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: What would happen if the Mossad kidnapped Palestinians in Hamas????
" 1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 9,599 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel."
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Since the beginning of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories in 1967, over 650,000 Palestinians have been detained by Israel. This forms approximately 20% of the total Palestinian population in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). As the majority of those detained are male, the number of Palestinians detained forms approximately 40% of the total male Palestinian population in the OPT.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/new_web/factsheet_prisoners.htm
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SUPPORT FOR PROTEST OF PALESTINIAN PRISONERS
August 17, 2004
Out of our beliefs in democracy, human rights and equality, we, European Jews for a Just Peace, support the call and protest of the Palestinian prisoners for a fundamental change in conditions of detention. In doing so, we wish to stress our condemnation of the use Israeli authorities make of so-called "administrative detention" for imprisoning people for long periods of time without trial, as well as of the confining of minors together with adults and of other humiliating and/or arbitrary practices imposed on the prisoners themselves and on their relatives. We call upon the European Union to demand yet again that international legality be respected and that they, together with human rights organizations monitor the conditions of Palestinian detainees in Israeli prisons to ensure that such illegal and abusive treatment is ended.
The EJJP Executive Committee
http://www.ejjp.org/main.asp?pagid=55
So basically, not only has the Mossad already kidnapped many Palestinians from the Hamas, but thousands of others as well, including women and children, who are being held in horrible conditions, are being tortured, and are either not being tried or face unfair trials:
"All such detainees should be released immediately or charged with specific crimes and put on trial, rights groups say.
But the Palestinian lawyers' NGO al-Haq says even when detainees are tried, the Israeli military authorities responsible for administering justice in the occupied territories overlook the standards of fair trials on several levels.
Alleged violations include depriving detainees of proper representation by counsels, the use of confidential evidence not disclosed to counsels or defendants, and giving evidence briefings in Hebrew without access to a translation.
The IDF denies the specific allegations and says it does everything to ensure fair trials, though it is hampered by the large numbers of people it says it must detain to ensure the safety of Israeli citizens."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3130623.stm
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