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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5803116 - 06/29/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5803242 - 06/29/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Snaggletooth said: So your just trolling 
Go back to Germany 
You should be your such a racist good luck with that
Totally unfair. I think he's brought up some interesting points at least. To call him a troll or a racist is why out of line, espeically in the pub.
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Snaggletooth said: So your just trolling 
Go back to Germany 
You should be your such a racist good luck with that
Totally unfair. I think he's brought up some interesting points at least. To call him a troll or a racist is why out of line, espeically in the pub.
What that he can cut and paste disinformation from a hate group?
He said nothing that was new, or interesting,
He used the same talking points that the Nazi use, or go to any white supremacy site and you will see the same thing...................but I guess like minds think the same
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5803360 - 06/29/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Btw to note, my gripe is not about JEWS. My gripe is about Israel as a country, not as a religion.
Seems like the people running the Israel Government are terrorits.
They been in a lot of wars in the 70s-80s from what i read, and start occupying parts of lebenon, going to war with egypt etc...
I am talking about the citizens of israel here, which could be jew, muslim, christian, atheist.
Its just like the US, trying to run into other countries and take them over.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Liquidkick]
#5803381 - 06/29/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you CLEARLY have NO idea what you're talking about... i'm sorry...
ALL our wars have been started by the countries we boarder with and NOT by us... all the occupied terretories were taken in these wars as stratigic ground!
if you look at the current map you'll see that israel is as thin as about 10-20 KM in the middle and can be cut in half with not much force our stratigic stand point is to always go farward because we simply can't retreat without compremising civilians (go farward at all costs)
we did NOT take land just for fun!
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Simisu]
#5803393 - 06/29/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, i briefly read the fact book. Indepth anyalsis comes later.
Keyword "seems"
Not definitive, but i guess i tried to support my non definitve answer.
Well whats up with these damn straight up "raids" i say kidnappings.
So if you're saying that these are not israeli land they are entering another country and removing its citizens from them, thats some kidnapping to me.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Simisu]
#5803405 - 06/29/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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simisu said: you CLEARLY have NO idea what you're talking about... i'm sorry...
ahahah your so right man, but dont be sorry for someone else ignorance,
I find stupidity funny 
I would not want to change their view, then what would I have to laugh at 
Hey where is your grow guide
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Liquidkick]
#5803411 - 06/29/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'm the last to teach anything about this... get your "facts" straight befor you continue to post in this thread
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Simisu]
#5803418 - 06/29/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'll post wherever.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Liquidkick]
#5803425 - 06/29/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5803445 - 06/29/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ummm as far as i know ivi... if we DID start a war it wasn't to gain land or anything like that, that's for sure! if we started one or two it was because we had no other choice and it was going to escalate into a war anyway 
we might have done the first strike on one or two (i'm clueless really) but not for fun (THAT i'm sure about!)
edit: this was in response to ivi's ORLY statment... i guess he want's to stay out of this... i didn't want to get INTO this but it's tempting when you see the amount of misconseptions people have (me included i guess )
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Simisu]
#5803460 - 06/29/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Who would have thought Politics or Religion would be so controversial, 
That why this bullshit should not be here, 
Did you all know there is a whole Forum dedicated to this, Really I am not shiting, there is, and that is where this shit should be.
Move it or lock it
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5803834 - 06/29/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Snaggletooth said:
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Penguarky Tunguin said:
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Snaggletooth said: So your just trolling 
Go back to Germany 
You should be your such a racist good luck with that
Totally unfair. I think he's brought up some interesting points at least. To call him a troll or a racist is why out of line, espeically in the pub.
What that he can cut and paste disinformation from a hate group?
He said nothing that was new, or interesting,
He used the same talking points that the Nazi use, or go to any white supremacy site and you will see the same thing...................but I guess like minds think the same
You know, I would just like to thank you for proving my point. Such emotion and blind hate towards me for my OPINION. You need to take a step back and ask yourself, why you think this way. I am not a troll, nor a white supremist, I am somebody who sees the truth through all the lies. It is an new common tactic to scream "RACIST" anytime valid points are brought up, that don't go with the flow. Its really getting old.
You say my sources are wrong.....look up each company and their CEO, its there in black and white. Just because they all happen to be jewish, it doesn't make me a racist for pointing it out.
I can't even state the truth with out being called a racist, nice FREE country we live in.
FUck nazis, my grandfather died defending england, and by you refering to me as a nazi.......sends chills down my spine. Fuck you you bitch ass faggot.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5803848 - 06/29/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No flaming in the Pub man, keep it civil.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Liquidkick]
#5803852 - 06/29/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Liquidkick said: Btw to note, my gripe is not about JEWS. My gripe is about Israel as a country, not as a religion.
Seems like the people running the Israel Government are terrorits.
They been in a lot of wars in the 70s-80s from what i read, and start occupying parts of lebenon, going to war with egypt etc...
I am talking about the citizens of israel here, which could be jew, muslim, christian, atheist.
Its just like the US, trying to run into other countries and take them over.
You have it a bit wrong. The Israeli's need to be tough, look where they live, and they have done a good job defending themselves(with the help of unlimited US funds, from tax payers) They are going too far though, they are in the eye of the red cross and various aggencies for crimes against humanity. Yet, do you hear about this in the news AT ALL? no, you do not. I know by stating that simple truth I am now racist, but I dont care. Up until about a year ago, I would have never posted something like this, I was a liberal bleeding heart anti-racist to the core. Now I see things for what they really are.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5803874 - 06/29/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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alpharedecho said:
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Snaggletooth said:
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Snaggletooth said: So your just trolling 
Go back to Germany 
You should be your such a racist good luck with that
Totally unfair. I think he's brought up some interesting points at least. To call him a troll or a racist is why out of line, espeically in the pub.
What that he can cut and paste disinformation from a hate group?
He said nothing that was new, or interesting,
He used the same talking points that the Nazi use, or go to any white supremacy site and you will see the same thing...................but I guess like minds think the same
You know, I would just like to thank you for proving my point. Such emotion and blind hate towards me for my OPINION. You need to take a step back and ask yourself, why you think this way. I am not a troll, nor a white supremist, I am somebody who sees the truth through all the lies. It is an new common tactic to scream "RACIST" anytime valid points are brought up, that don't go with the flow. Its really getting old.
You say my sources are wrong.....look up each company and their CEO, its there in black and white. Just because they all happen to be jewish, it doesn't make me a racist for pointing it out.
I can't even state the truth with out being called a racist, nice FREE country we live in.
FUck nazis, my grandfather died defending england, and by you refering to me as a nazi.......sends chills down my spine. Fuck you you bitch ass faggot.
ahhhh are we in a school yard, I thought you had to be 18 to post here, I guess not
Thanks man for the laughs you rock
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5803979 - 06/29/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright, this thread has seriously degenerated. After reviewing it, I can find little evidence that many of you are actually listening to each other.
This is a controversial subject, and there is bound to be some flaming, but flaming is NOT allowed in the Pub, or anywhere in the Shroomery, with the exception of OTD.
I am moving this thread to the Political forum (with a pointer). Please note that there is NO flaming allowed in PAL either.
Thanks...
PS: The jewish media conspiracy is actually a 1/72 scale model in my basement. If you look closely, you can see my dog in some of the pictures...
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Simisu]
#5804020 - 06/29/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey don't worry simisu, i'm not the kind of guy who lets these types of discussion get out of hands, and of course i'm not personally mad at you, but rather at israel as a whole for its lack of reaction to what's going on. no reaction to the killings of innocent civilians, no reaction to the bombing of gaza (which by the way has one of the highest density of population in the world), and its just disheartening.
hey, just out of curiosity, what kind of life do you live? you say you have limited contact with people and the media, did you seclude yourself from the rest of the world or something? 
and to answer your question, i'm in france right now, and i try to change things that concern me more directly, like the recent student movement, i was part of that from the beginning. in fact it took a long time for the movement to really pick up some momentum, it took a little less than two months, and during these two months there was alot of communication and information that was done in order to sensibilize people of what's going on in this country.
and since my university was pretty much where the movement originated from, sometimes i wonder what would've happened if i hadn't done anything
just little things like informing people, just having basic discussions or debates, can have amazing long term effects, like how one domino can cause thousands more to fall.
that's why i think the least you could do is inform yourself of what's happening in your country. i'm amazed that you don't know much of israel's history, its the country that has probably the most particular history in the world. this is just for you to take into consideration but try and find out what's going on, history is unfolding in front of your eyes and you're not paying attention.
you know, you ARE history, you MAKE history, history is you.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: exclusive58]
#5805960 - 06/30/06 04:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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rather at israel as a whole for its lack of reaction to what's going on. no reaction to the killings of innocent civilians, no reaction to the bombing of gaza (which by the way has one of the highest density of population in the world), and its just disheartening.
It is very easy to judge Israel if you have not lived there (or visited). Every single day is lived in fear of being randomly killed. Imagine living somewhere that you cannot leave a car window down for fear that somebody will toss a bomb in the car while you are away. Day, after day, after day, after day, getting stung over and over by little attacks from your neighbor. It never stops, it never ends, it just goes on and on and on and on, year after year after year. (get the idea?) And if you do anything at all about it, from building a wall to keep the neighbor out to killing those that are attacking your people, the world cries foul calling you a terrorist. I don't always agree with Israel for how they react and what they do, but I certainly do not fault them (very often).
And for all those that cry, "but Israel stole the land from the PA"... whah. A lot of borders changed post WWII. Nowhere else in the world do I hear anybody bitch about how somebody else stole their grandfather's land... not even the American Indians, who got shafted much, much worse than any other culture I can think of.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Seuss]
#5806980 - 06/30/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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rather at israel as a whole for its lack of reaction to what's going on. no reaction to the killings of innocent civilians, no reaction to the bombing of gaza (which by the way has one of the highest density of population in the world), and its just disheartening.
It is very easy to judge Israel if you have not lived there (or visited). Every single day is lived in fear of being randomly killed. Imagine living somewhere that you cannot leave a car window down for fear that somebody will toss a bomb in the car while you are away. Day, after day, after day, after day, getting stung over and over by little attacks from your neighbor. It never stops, it never ends, it just goes on and on and on and on, year after year after year. (get the idea?) And if you do anything at all about it, from building a wall to keep the neighbor out to killing those that are attacking your people, the world cries foul calling you a terrorist. I don't always agree with Israel for how they react and what they do, but I certainly do not fault them (very often).
And for all those that cry, "but Israel stole the land from the PA"... whah. A lot of borders changed post WWII. Nowhere else in the world do I hear anybody bitch about how somebody else stole their grandfather's land... not even the American Indians, who got shafted much, much worse than any other culture I can think of.
Bullshit, international law dictate that you cannot keep land won in a war, yet Israel has not followed this law. Also, what about those "settlements", atleast they are pulling out of them now. And that fuckling wall they put up, while jewish people in america lobby to have no wall put at the mexican border. The chosen ones are major hypocrits.
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