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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: ZippoZ]
#5800938 - 06/28/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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altohugh im astounded at the lack of amercan news coverage on the major networks, cnn, msnbc, and even fox news arent covering it...
Are you really? I'm not. Not at all. It just goes to show you how much this government has the media wrapped around it's finger. Jesus, what would we do without internet? Someone made a huge mistake letting the net get out of control.
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If I may:
"If this was how it was then this was how it was. But there was no law that made him say he liked it. I did not know that I could ever feel what I have felt, he thought. Nor that this could happen to me. I would like to have it for my whole llife. You will, the other part of him said. You will. You have it now and that is all your whole life is; now. There is nothing else than now. There is neither yesterday, certainly, nor is there any tomorrow. how old must you be before you know that? There is only now, and if now is only two days, then two days is your life and everything in it will be in proportion. This is how you live a life in two days. And if you stop complaining and asking for what you never will get, you will have a good life. A good life is not measured by any biblical span."
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altohugh im astounded at the lack of amercan news coverage on the major networks, cnn, msnbc, and even fox news arent covering it...
Are you really? I'm not. Not at all. It just goes to show you how much this government has the media wrapped around it's finger. Jesus, what would we do without internet? Someone made a huge mistake letting the net get out of control.
That's nonsense. The media sucks because the outlets know what people want to watch. People want to watch silly little human interest stories, like rescuing the pets from Hurrican Katrina. Most US citizens don't give a shit about foreign policy and couldn't even find Israel on a map.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Redstorm]
#5801113 - 06/28/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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And why do you think that is?
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If I want to hear the news there are news links to it online... I dont care, the world is crazy, what else is new?
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Skunk420]
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Boom]
#5801209 - 06/28/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I hate to hear about all the drama going on in the world, my habits most likely will shorten my life anyway,
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I have no idea, but it's always been that way. A large portion of the population have always been interested in unimportant vaudeville-type happenings. Do you ever wonder how papers like the National Enquirer and The Weekly World News stay in business? It seems to me that most people have a phobia of "hard news". The only meaningful news they care about is the news that pertains to them personally.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Redstorm]
#5801999 - 06/29/06 02:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: It seems to me that most people have a phobia of "hard news". The only meaningful news they care about is the news that pertains to them personally.
Speak for yourself, this story has been making the news everywhere here ever since the soldier was first kidnapped.
You gotta wonder what the hell is going on the israeli's heads for doing this, blowing shit up like bridges and powerplants is fucking useless, they're attacking the palestinian population and their goods just cuz a few retarded djihadists kidnapped an israeli.
And this is happening when the palestinian government just made a crucial step in the peace process by implicitly recognizing the state of Israel, its the first time in history something like this happens.
Israel's going nuts.
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And what was that incident a few weeks ago where those civilians were killed on the beach? Were those Palestinians?
Seven Palestinian civilians were killed and about 35 wounded by an Israeli artillery shell on a beach in northern Gaza on the evening of June 9. The murder of the seven beachgoers, including an 18-month-old girl and an infant boy, is another atrocity perpetrated by the Israeli government against the Palestinian people.
Friday’s massacre was a deliberate and calculated political provocation. It follows a four-month-long Israeli military offensive and economic siege of the Occupied Territories, which has received the full backing of Tel Aviv’s allies in the US and Europe.
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2006/06/1729576_comment.php
Hey suimisu, are you ashamed of what you're government is doing? is that why you're not watching the news? i read that this is how most people in israel are reacting, they're just disregarding what's happening and pretending that it doesn't concern them.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: exclusive58]
#5802193 - 06/29/06 05:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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exclusive58 said: Hey suimisu, are you ashamed of what you're government is doing? is that why you're not watching the news? i read that this is how most people in israel are reacting, they're just disregarding what's happening and pretending that it doesn't concern them.
i'm not ashamed i've lost hope in things turning "good" i don't listen to the news because i can live my life just fine without letting all that shit get to me! i don't want to be responsible for my governments shit or for anyone alse (and there's enough shit to worry about... have any of you heared aabout the consentration camps in china? that's going on RIGHT NOW and yet the media is still wrapped up in middle east shit, talking about iran... WHERE THE FUCK WAS IRAN A YEAR AGO? this is all bull shit and personally i rather avoide it! even if i DID want to comment on it i'd feel like i was talking BS since i don't belive what i hear on the news ANYWAY )
this war is wrong... any war is wrong  and BTW there's not much pretending to do... it does not actualy concer me... this stuff is going on very far from me and does not effect MY life in any way! just like what's going on in chine, africa or even the US... if i chose to be effected by everything that's going on in the world i'd feel too incompetent to do anything about it anyway, so i'd rather live my life for the best and if i get to make a change it might some day add up to a general trend of change for the good...
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Simisu]
#5802393 - 06/29/06 08:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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damn, i'd be ashamed if i lived in israel and if my government did that, especially in a time when the palestinian people finally elected their own government, and when palestine was actually starting to move forward (even if recognizing israel isn't much in itself, its still a step forward). i mean, just the fact that the israeli army permitted itself to shoot civilians on a beach in palestine...wtf, i don't know man, the israeli government is loosing it.
but you're right, this is all BS anyways, nevertheless i doesn't change the fact that if you're an israeli citizen, that the army is acting in your name, this does concern you whether you like it or not, doesn't that piss you off? you say that you're waiting for a general trend of change for the good, does that mean that nobody in israel is expressing their discontentment for what is happening?
i go by the philosophy that an individual is not separate from the world, that i am the world, and that what's happening to the world is happening to me. maybe that's one of my inherent problems, since i tend to be easily emotionally affected by what's going on in the world, and that's why i can get fired up for these things (sorry if i'm coming off as harsh or something btw) but ultimately i think there's no avoiding, sooner or later it'll come back to you with a vengeance. might as well try and act now, before its too late.
you know the butterfly effect, as tiny and insignificant as we are, we always have the potential to change the world.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: exclusive58]
#5802442 - 06/29/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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the thing is i don't know what's really going on you see... i have very limited contackt with people and the midia (by choice) i don't feel saparate from the world but i feel that expressing my viwe on life and the situation (whenever it fits) is what's going to make the change... but the fact is that what i think has no bearing on the political reality! maybe i'm selfish but i rather focus on my life then on countless others (for now) maybe when i'll be somehow content with my life i could actualy preach for a change?
you know those people that keep worrying about stray cats? don't these people know there are worse things then stray cats? why don't they worry about homelss people instead? and why worry about the homeless when you SHOULD be worried with the education of your kids so that they're not going to end up homeless? and while you're at it why not worry about how the midia is brainwashing out minds and making the expiriance we call life so fucking bad?
i choose to be blind in the hope that if my life will be ok i might be able to make other people's life a little better, we're not gonna change society by force so i'm not gonna bother 
and of course it pisses me off, it's disapointing, its thrustrating, its sad and its terrible but hating and spewing venomes words at people is not gonna help anything so i choose to ignore it!
i'm really too much of an idealist and when i was younger i always talked about how things should be better if everyone were simply better/ideal but change comes from the bottom up and not the other way around right? so i'm not gonna bother with what i can't change...
now let me ask you... what are YOU doing to change anything? the US is 100 times as fucked as israel!
(i'm not taking any of this personally BTW and neither should you... let's not let this get out of hand like these discussions tend to get )
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: exclusive58]
#5802565 - 06/29/06 09:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: It seems to me that most people have a phobia of "hard news". The only meaningful news they care about is the news that pertains to them personally.
Speak for yourself,
I was speaking for American people, so that does not include you.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: ZippoZ]
#5802578 - 06/29/06 09:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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zippoz said: why the fuck is this not on cnn??????
Because this "campeign" is exposing Israel for the ruthless occupation state it is, the only state in the world that still practices aparthied. Everyone knows who runs the media in the USA, and if you don't then you are blind. That is why it is not all over cnn, yet if the palastinians launched just 1 missile into Israel, we would never hear the end of it.
Freedom of press is one of our best qualities as a society, what happens when we no longer have it?
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Simisu]
#5802592 - 06/29/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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simisu said: israel takes kidnapes VERY VERY seriusly and wants to "tell" the world and it's citizens that they won't hold back untill they get their people back!
on the one hand being born and raised in israel i TOTALLY understand and agree with it, on the other i could NEVER find any reason to throw millions of dollars worth of smart bombs on crappy shacks, briges or power plants (just for show) it also gets the exect oposit result and breeds more hardship for a place that's already very hard to live in (creating more people who'd like to blow up in a bus )
israel can not take things such as kidnapes lying down... it's simply not an option (we're surounded by haters and if we give them the chance we'll have too much shit to deal with)
as far as killing men, raping women and assimilation goes... i sure fucking hope none of that shit is going on in the IDF... i'd like to think that it doesn't but that'd be too naive i can only hope that it's only a few incedents here and there rather then the norm 
(BTW i have no idea what's going on over here... i don't listen to the news anymore!)
I have a question for you. Why is it, that when Israeli's kidnap Palastinians(which they do on a daily basis) it is called arresting, or questioning? They "arrest" one Israeli soldier so they invade the sovereign state of palistine. I have much respect for the Israeli people, but lately they are looking like hypocrites and they use their power in the media to cover it up. This is not anti-semitism, it is simply my observation.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5802594 - 06/29/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The idea of Jews running the media is absurd.
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Hell yeah. They don't take NO shit from NOBODY.
Why is it okay for them to commit mass murder of innocent lives? I realize they are in a bad situation, but how can you make a statement like this. The world is so fucking blind it drives me nuts. Its like Israel has immunity to law due to the events that happened over 60 years ago. Wake up people, your unbridled support of Israel is why the WTC were taken out. You wonder why muslims hate America??? Cause they hate our FREEDOM??? hahaha yeah right, its because USA sends over 3 billion$ a year to Israel in aid. I wish we would all just stay out of the middle east and let the people fighting for it, duke it out.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Redstorm]
#5802633 - 06/29/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: The idea of Jews running the media is absurd.
Why is that? Why do Jewish people own a disproportionate amount of the media? Ben Stein was quoted as saying "So what if Jews own 60% of the Hollywood, so what?"
Well, when the state of Israel is constantly thought of as a "strong beacon of democracy, in a dessert of shit" while committing war crimes, you start to wonder why. Maybe the media is biased??
I am asking you, when you watch news reports of the next few weeks reporting on these events, please take note of the positive, heroic light, Israel is painted in. They are a country that must conduct itself in the same manor as the rest of them, no free passes.
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Re: So....Uh....What's going on over in Gaza? [Re: Redstorm]
#5802654 - 06/29/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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altohugh im astounded at the lack of amercan news coverage on the major networks, cnn, msnbc, and even fox news arent covering it...
Are you really? I'm not. Not at all. It just goes to show you how much this government has the media wrapped around it's finger. Jesus, what would we do without internet? Someone made a huge mistake letting the net get out of control.
That's nonsense. The media sucks because the outlets know what people want to watch. People want to watch silly little human interest stories, like rescuing the pets from Hurrican Katrina. Most US citizens don't give a shit about foreign policy and couldn't even find Israel on a map.
Nonesense, the media knows exactly what it is doing. If it was constantly showing the crimes of Israel, Americans would stop supporting said state. Who would that be bad for, the Israelis, who controls the media......
It never fails to amaze me at how indoctrinated the US people are......THINK FOR YOURSELVES, and STOP watching your TV!!!
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