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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5796891 - 06/27/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"i'll gladly pay you for a hambuger on tuesday for a hambuger today
why say" -- Schwammel
Please do. Don't expect any hamburgers, though.
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Panoramix]
#5796941 - 06/27/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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why say waht? you never heard of popeye?
whimpy was always looking for food, and he'd always promise something at a later date.
thats kinda like ice asking for kudos today for something he'll never deliver on tomorrow
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Schwammel]
#5796980 - 06/27/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll take the kudos today, as tomorrow never comes.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5796983 - 06/27/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i agree
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Schwammel]
#5797017 - 06/27/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"thats kinda like ice asking for kudos today for something he'll never deliver on tomorrow" -- Schwammel
He isn't asking for kudos, really. It's just as easy to knock him on a thread like this. And I don't recall hearing him promise anything.
I've heard of Popeye (they're the only brand of cigarettes I buy!) but I've certainly never watched it. Mostly I'm disappointed you aren't sending me money. I'll totally, umm, mail you some hamburgers. Scout's honour!
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Panoramix]
#5797043 - 06/27/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Popeye was a famous wise man. He said something very profound that few people can actualize in a lifetime of trying.
"I am what I am and that's all that I am. -Popeye{/b}
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5797062 - 06/27/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"I am what I am and that's all that I am. -Popeye"
I'm Popeye the sailorman
toot toot
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Schwammel]
#5797077 - 06/27/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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he said i whole lot more than that, the part abt paying on tuedays was a way of hedging your bets
that was the eyes and soul at the time
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5797161 - 06/27/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I shouldn't complain about the spiritual clime of this forum if I'm not contributing. On the other hand, I don't usually get many responses when I create a post so I usually just answer questions that particularly interest me, when I have an answer to offer. It is very nice to know that there are some psychedelic enthusiasts around the world that would offer me hospitality if I were in their vicinity, and vice versa (I'm a home body and do not travel much).
The only way that this forum can grow is if 'psychonauts' choose to take a more scholarly approach to their experiences. Instead of reading New Age publications and the lunatic fringe (like planet X swinging into our solar system, reptilian aliens, blah, blah, blah...), if people found themselves belonging to a historical lineage of Eastern and Western seekers, and familiarized themselves with the thoughts/feelings of those seekers, and how the Church and history even vilified them, a greater sense of meaning and belongingness would develop. Without a deeper connection to those seekers of the past, many young Shroomerites are likely to go the way of most trippers from my generation. Most trippers could not integrate the Experiences well enough to permanently affect their deepest values and morals. The Psychedelic Experience became a cliche belonging to 'the 60s' and therefore became passe. I remember the long-hairs who suddenly got 70's hair styles, clog shoes and traded humble love beads for gold-plated razor blades on gold chains to reflect the shallowness of their inner life as being nothing more than a changeable display of cultural fashion.
Tom Wolfe in his The Electric Acid Kool-Aid Test noticed how 'hip' Blacks (now hip-hop) didn't like acid because it 'killed the cool.' Among people of different ethnicities I've noticed that, and the idea is not to be 'cool' because that is a step away from 'cold' which is part of the whole 'stone cold killa [sp]' mentality that gangsta rap depicts. The Psychedelic Experience makes for a 'warm' heart, not a sociopathically cold one. So now it's not 'disco' as a competing social trend, but 'hip-hop.' The values are similar, but there seems to be a much wider streak of sociopathic violence involved. The disco people had to move on, but they often took their materialism-in-the-service-of-status-seeking mentality all the way through life, leaving seeking-after Truth far far behind (if such seeking was ever there to begin with) in the memories of idealistic 20-something youthful discovery of life. I hope that the Shroomery, and this forum in particular, is a place where young Entheogenic Enthusiasts can better integrate their Experiences, thereby effecting permanent change in their Consciousness, so that they are not taken over by the seduction of corrupt secular culture and non-Enlightenment.
Sorry if this turned out to be a rant
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5797188 - 06/27/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't say you were running out of time just old. I'm soon to be the big 53 so am right behind you age wise.
Around the world in 80 days?
Go South it's warmer there. Of course, you might need to learn some Spanish...
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5797197 - 06/27/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Popeye was a famous wise man. He said something very profound that few people can actualize in a lifetime of trying.
"I am what I am and that's all that I am. -Popeye{/b}
realizing it for yourself is easy. Realizing it in others is the tricky part 
sorry, Icey, wish I was cool like you, but 'I am what I am, and that's all I am.'
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its kinda dated, you got a current rant? something that addresses the spiritual concepts held here to date? what are people looking for and what can they be...
being nothing or being verything [sic] only works so many times
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: LunarEclipse]
#5797430 - 06/27/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey, I'll be 53 in a couple of weeks. If I live to 120, I'm not truly middle aged for 7 more years
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5797482 - 06/27/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why must people always give the "BIG FAREWELL". Come on Ice....it is better to just not show up one day...and then not show up again. The "BIG FAREWELL" has been done 3 or 4 times by many users. When I totally tire from it I'll just walk away.
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#5797566 - 06/27/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I never gave a farewell. I still plan to post. All I said is I got what I wanted and I plan to post much less. If you check out my origional post it had nothing to do with me leaving. I was bored and joking around.
Maybe people just want it to be my big farewell.
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: DoctorJ]
#5797573 - 06/27/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said:
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Icelander said: Popeye was a famous wise man. He said something very profound that few people can actualize in a lifetime of trying.
"I am what I am and that's all that I am. -Popeye{/b}
realizing it for yourself is easy. Realizing it in others is the tricky part 
sorry, Icey, wish I was cool like you, but 'I am what I am, and that's all I am.'
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5797643 - 06/27/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ah...but you have given the "BIG FAREWELL" before... In any case I hope it is not your "BIG FAREWELL" as I like your posts.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: I miss the old shroomery [Re: Icelander]
#5797778 - 06/27/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"So now it's not 'disco' as a competing social trend, but 'hip-hop.' The values are similar, but there seems to be a much wider streak of sociopathic violence involved." -- Markos
You clearly know not of what you speak. I'll agree with you that mainstream hip-hop is weak and without value, but that's true of any music bland enough to fit into the mainstream.
"What a vicious format, the system sets parametres for living/ By using tunnel vision funneled to the money system/ Ads are dads, sitcoms are moms/ Dollars are our legs and arms and our heart is a bomb/ Detonate if you hesitate/ To slave or matriculate/ You'd better participate/ Survival's your interest rate/ Financing is Manson/ Hopes are held for ransom/ Power's dancing, sorrow's the anthem" --Mr. Lif or how about "Our horizon was accessorizing/ Need bred more need/ Best believe it's the equation of greed/ I need a new car and thus new brakes/ Another tune-up with lube/ Whatever's put together shall be unscrewed/ In times of famine we made more food/ Food made more people/ It's self-explained within this cycle of evil/ Would I trade it all, cruisin' down the highway on a bright summer day/ Gazing out a plane to see the Earth from miles away/ Watching the Patriots win the Superbowl/ Grabbin that fumble from Ricky Paul/<-no clue is that's the right last name Or my stereo provided me with rhythm and soul/ I dunno, all I know is I feel guilt for every single thing I've ever bought or sold/ I shoulda been in more demonstrations/ Planted bombs in corporations/ Murdered CEOs and canceled tv shows/ Burned billboards and torn posters, I could have read more/ But finally I'll get to meet this God they left us dead for/ And it's ill, it's power took the form of a bill/ For which people killed life, manipulated free will/ Conscience will be their crucifix, the chopping block for poppycock/ And I can feel our spirits drop upon these streets I hardly walk..." Mr. Lif
I'm doing this without the benefit of liner notes, so you'll have to forgive me on what I get wrong, but what I'm trying to convey here is that there are plenty of artists who still stand for what hip-hop really is. Socially conscious, politically aware, intent on revolution and actually capable of motivating the youth, which is more than can be said for your rosy-hued revisionism. Heh, you weren't really being a revisionist, I just have a thing for alliteration. My point being, just because any hip-hop you might see on MTV features guys getting sprung over their guns and jewelery and marginalized young girls gyrating their asses with such vigour you worry they might hurt themselves, doesn't mean that's all hip-hop has to offer.
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Quote:
MarkostheGnostic said: The Psychedelic Experience makes for a 'warm' heart, not a sociopathically cold one.
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itstarssaddam raises an excellent point, you were indeed being a rosy-hued revisionist in your appraisal of psychedelics and their affect on culture back in 'the day'.
I wasn't sure I had appraisal spelt right, so I did the ole spellchecker and guess what! It tries to change itstarssaddam to Amsterdam! Just one more reason that's a kickass name.
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