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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: coAsTal]
    #6822255 - 04/23/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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yeah with Ayahuasca I had closed eye visuals. like a laser light show in my head or something and a trippy feeling like shrooms but nothing that unlocks reality like Salvia would.
  Salvia can be just mindblowing while Ayahuasca just seemed fun. Even before my Aya trip was over i put in a Wierd Al video and was laughing at it.  Had a smile on my face the whole trip though and I was telling my gf what I was seeing with my eyes closed.
  with Salvia it can be hard forming words
  BTW sorry I cant compare Aya to DMT because I havent tried DMT yet but I imagine it wouldn't be near as life changing as Salvia.




I see you relating a Salvia experience to DMT--despite the fact that they are completely, fundamentally different.
Now what?

:rolleyes:



 
  next time look a little harder buddy
  fyi  Salvia is up there with dmt experience wise from what I have heard
maybe I am wrong and maybe dmt is more like marajuana or something ...  NOT


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: cpw1971]
    #6822422 - 04/23/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

What I am saying is that this is a thread with a guy asking about the difference between Ayahuasca and DMT, and here you are jackinh the thread with multiple posts about Salvia.

Read the thread title before dumping irrelevant observations into it, buddy.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: coAsTal]
    #6822513 - 04/23/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

and who the hell are you???
mr self proclaimed deputy dog of the threads???
I threw Salvia in there because someone said nothing else could be compared
you didnt even start the thread to begin with
you just worry about yourself


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: cpw1971]
    #6826795 - 04/24/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Back to the subject.... I've been told a great analogy for Smoked DMT versus ayahuasca:

Smoked DMT: Loading yourself into a cannon and being blasted into outer space. You come down almost as quickly as you were fired out

Ayahuasca: Taking your trip to a similar area in the space shuttle: takes longer to get there, but you get to stick around and explore.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
    #6826845 - 04/24/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

lol i like that last post tho sometimes ayahuasca can should be more compared to a ship then shuttle cause it has hyper drive, i can fling you pretty far and unalbe to leave for a couple minutes and sometimes it will just do the same as smoked and throw you somewhere then pull you back leaving you like wtf


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: cpw1971]
    #7446005 - 09/23/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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BTW sorry I cant compare Aya to DMT because I havent tried DMT yet but I imagine it wouldn't be near as life changing as Salvia.




i think you should have a breakthru expirience with dmt before you try to say anything is more lifechanging than it, cuz thats just rediculous to me. i duno, 40x salvia wasnt shit compared to 40 mg of dmt


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: clover606]
    #7446091 - 09/23/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah I tried it
  when it was coming on it felt like I was gonna have an anyuerism and I was gonna suffocate at the same time .
  great closed eye visuals though :thumbup:


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: cpw1971]
    #7446094 - 09/23/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)


I like Aya better though


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: cpw1971]
    #7446511 - 09/24/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

you need sacred tea its a step up from huasca.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: thedudenj]
    #7449106 - 09/24/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hmmm tell me more?? are you talking with Datura added???


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: cpw1971]
    #7449127 - 09/24/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ive tried them both and yes,... ayahuasca is much more of a traditional "trip" in that you will learn things and come to conclusions... In my experience There was a very intense coming up/peaking experience followed by a beautiful fade where you can reflect. You can definately get as strong visuals from ayahuasca as from smoking the extract. But then again as yageman said theres many ways of brewing the tea.

With smoked DMT its usually over too fast to come to any conclusions, its mostly a quick comeup/rush +crazy head trip with beautiful imagery...


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: 2859558484]
    #7449274 - 09/24/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well as i have said countless times my brew varies and sometimes yes does contain datura or burgmansia. this week end i found a ton of burgmansia aka florida angel and collected some. Virola makes a big diff when its added to the brew specially when prepared right


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: cpw1971]
    #7449309 - 09/24/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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hmmm tell me more?? are you talking with Datura added???




He puts anything he wants in his ayahuasca.

He plays it by ear,(would be my guess).
A sort of a modern shaman. Making rules as he goes along.
He tries something and observes how it works with everything else he uses.

This way you develope a strong relationship with your plants.
Your ayahuasca, or "brew" doesnt have to fit any real guidelines.
The best of the explorers cant help but to experiment with caapi or rue after having tried the most traditional ayahuasca, which includes only caapi, or caapi mixed with viridis or (Chaliponga; Chagropanga; Oco-yagè).
Its always respectable to have your own favorite brew that you just simply came up with after working with certain plants for a while.

Its like alchemy. Its so damn interesting to mix even 10 substances and find out what it does, to further your goal, your own personal recipe.

One of my favorite brews involves *almost no tropanes(lol), 4.5-5 grams of rue eaten(chewed well) over a 1.5 hour period of time. a slight bit of morning glory action, .5 grams of mushrooms, 3-7 inches of some thick cacti, and any given amount of viridis. Viridis being the last one mentioned because I consider all that comes before it in that sentance to be a great platform to come before dmt intervention.

Throw in one salvia leaf if you dare..........lol

No shit, some people collect these herbs dried and in their full plant form. The brew i mentioned above is only as intense as the viridis you add. Otherwise its just a very nice thick trip.

If I wanted to have such an elaborate mix with caapi, I would have to greatly alter the "platform" before the viridis came into play.

Some of these mixes would blow your mind even if you didnt trip very hard.
I dont recommend mixing maois with datura or salvia.
However, im not about to explain why I would do such a thing myself.

Low doses of many plants mixed together with maois, and then viridis tea.
Timing is crucial.

Eventually, when mixing so many psychedelics, you split them up into different time frames.
It is alot of fun to make a really potent, single and thick 5 chug tea though.

I encourage this kind of brewing. You make what suits you best.
Take it slow though. It is a learning process.

The original or viridis infused ayahuasca will always be my favorite just because of its purity.
additives are never a bad thing though.
When carefully mixing, you are simply creating a new experience.
Almost just like the first people who mixed their beloved caapi(ayahuasca), with some other plant which contained dmt.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: yageman]
    #7449580 - 09/24/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The important thing is that you fully explore and come to terms with each ingredient and method on it's on. Otherwise you are not having your own experience versus one that has been dictated to you.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: TripityDooDaDay] * 1
    #7449609 - 09/24/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ya, exactly, sort of.

The department of the redundancy department just called, and they want your post back.

Just kidding. I agree.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: yageman]
    #7449618 - 09/24/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah. I can agree with that. :smile:


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7449741 - 09/24/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah my brew is gonna require vaporized Salvinorin just before the purge :eek:
  and some balloons of NOS


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: cpw1971]
    #7449883 - 09/24/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ouch but, yeah...


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: yageman]
    #7450032 - 09/24/07 11:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yageman, why do you disadvise mixing salvia with an maoi? I thought it was not only safe, but actually potentiated it. Not because of the structure of the molecule, but some other type of hallucinogen synergy.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs. Ayahuasca Tea [Re: Mosis]
    #18640736 - 07/31/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello there! I would prefer ayahuasca tea because of its very effectiveness.


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