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#5792913 - 06/26/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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HoleSnype
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: ]
#5792944 - 06/26/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't worry about the name brand. Try to get the honey that is light in color. Not that dark cloudy shit. Any kind will work. GL
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: HoleSnype]
#5792954 - 06/26/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I don't think it matters much. I have used super dark(mesquite), completely raw unfiltered honey and it worked great. I use Karo now because its easier to see through.
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: tallgreen]
#5792972 - 06/26/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I tried honey lots of times and it just isn't for me.
Karo light corn syrup has beat honeys ass into the dirt.
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#5792987 - 06/26/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edited by werdnaeroom8 (06/26/06 04:08 PM)
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: ]
#5793002 - 06/26/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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werdnaeroom8 said:
Karo light corn syrup....I can find this at any grocery store? What color of container is it in?
You should be able to find it at Safeway or QFC...no problem.
Should be in the baking isle...me thinks.
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: Roadkill]
#5793036 - 06/26/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeap looks like that. Safeway. Albertsons etc.
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: mikeownow]
#5793226 - 06/26/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anything that is preservative-free, 100% honey should be fine. I use 1 tbs to 1 pint of water, PC for 15 minutes, filter though two coffee filters and then re-PC the filtered liquid for 15 minutes. The filter removes the bits that caramelized during the first PC. My resulting liquid is almost completely clear.
I also add a magnetic stirrer bar for later use (see my sig).
But I've also seen a lot of people rave about light vanilla Karo.
splif
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Edited by werdnaeroom8 (06/26/06 05:18 PM)
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: ]
#5793341 - 06/26/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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There are certainly people here who do precisely that (agitate by hand).
But a magstirrer does a far better job with far less effort and for very, very little money. Mine didn't cost me a dime. I had a dead harddrive and a slew of spare computer fans in my house but even if you don't, they're cheap and easy to come by.
Look at it this way... A mag will stir the LC/myc up 24/7 if you want it to. It can easily take a half-hour to break up the myc really well. Who wants to spend a half hour every day shaking a jar? Also, the mag will effectively chop up the myc into a fairly regular, small size. You simply can't get that by agitating.
Here's a picture of one of my LCs:

That entire mass is 100% pure fluf. If I were to put it on the mag stir it would seperate into hundreds of easily-aspirated bits in seconds. Which means I could knock up grain jars with just a drop or two from an LC syringe because I wouldn't have a lump of LC, I'd have a cloud.
Again, don't get me wrong, you don't HAVE to use a mag. It's just the best, most effective and cheapest mycology tool I own. It's invaluable.
splif
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: ]
#5793469 - 06/26/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think stirring is all that great. Sure it helps somewhat, but I think most people are just in awe of the coolness of mag stirring rather than it having any amazing benefit.
You don't even need to shake your jars very often. You don't need to shake for the first few days or sometimes even a week. You only need to shake a day or two after you start seeing growth and then only every other day or so.
Mag stirring helps, but it doesn't help all that much. Constant stirring will help keep the LC oxygenated, but so does shaking. I certainly wouldn't call it "...the best, most effective and cheapest mycology tool I own." What about syringes, needles, petri dishes, inoculating loops, flow hoods, bunsen burners, alcohol, lysol, agar, glass jars, RTV, etc.? Mag-stirring is just a novelty that saves a tiny bit of work and gives a slightly better performance from LC. The novelty of seeing that bar spin will wear off eventually.
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: fastfred]
#5793593 - 06/26/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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werdnaeroom8 writes: "Can i see mor epictures of your magnetic stirrer. I interested in making one."
For the love of pete, it's in my sig! =)
"What actually stirs the Mycellium, a metal piece inside your LC jar or outside?"
The fan spins the magnet and the metal bit inside the LC jar is "captured" by the magnetic field and spins at the same rate as the fan (assuming low viscosity).
fastfred writes: "You don't even need to shake your jars very often. You don't need to shake for the first few days or sometimes even a week. You only need to shake a day or two after you start seeing growth and then only every other day or so."
I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree. Not only is my myc virtually powder in a liquid suspension and could not possibly clog a syringe during aspiration but I did an experiment where I stopped two of my LC jars from being stirred and I let one continue 24/7. The LC on the mag full-time nearly doubled the volume of the only-shaken jars.
But hey, different strokes for different folks.
"Mag stirring helps, but it doesn't help all that much. Constant stirring will help keep the LC oxygenated, but so does shaking. I certainly wouldn't call it "...the best, most effective and cheapest mycology tool I own." What about syringes, needles, petri dishes, inoculating loops, flow hoods, bunsen burners, alcohol, lysol, agar, glass jars, RTV, etc.?"
Fair enough. I would have spoken better if I'd said "the best non-critical, time-saving tool I own."
The next time I do an LC (probably seeded from one of my existing LCs) I'll make up two jars. Standard RTV/polyfill vacuum-free lids. I'll agitate one by hand for 1 minute each day and I'll let the other one sit on the mag. I'll post the results regardless of whether the disparity in the myc growth is large or small (I promise).
Heck, tomorrow night I'll be bored out of my skull. I'll probably start it then.
splif
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: ]
#5793929 - 06/26/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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werdnaeroom8 writes: "alright now I understand the product fully but im wondering what should i use as the actualy stirrer....? any advice?"
I took a spool of solid wire, maybe 14 gague, and snipped off a roughly 1/2 - 3/4" piece. I then put that piece inside a bit of shrinkwrap, held it with pliers and applied heat (lighter). The excess heatshrink was then trimmed off.
The shrinkwrap was mostly unnecessary but it does buffer the sound of the metal scraping the glass. I also wanted to make sure most of the metal surface was not directly exposed to the LC in case it started to rust. But you could certainly do without it.
splif
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: splifner180]
#5794300 - 06/26/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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We can agree to disagree also...
I really think the stir plates are over rated.
I haven't had any problems growing out LC's without one.


and the marble breaks up the mycelium just fine!~

toys are nice...but not always needed.
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#5794313 - 06/26/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: Roadkill]
#5794321 - 06/26/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Roadkill said: toys are nice...but not always needed. tc
yap, you
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Re: LC - what kind of honey? [Re: ]
#5794716 - 06/27/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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werdnaeroom8 said:
so no matter what i have to put a object in the LC Jar to help break up the mycellium then?
yeah you really should...
it breaks up the mycelium so that you can suck it up into the syringe.
tc
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