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OfflineAshland
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Fake LSD?
    #5788484 - 06/25/06 02:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

So two friends of mine and I each took one hit of what we believed (and were told by trustworthy friends of ours who had apparently used it before) to be good quality LSD. They were Dot candies (like what you get in the movie theater) which, I guess, were administered the dose by dropping it onto them. The one thing I noticed right off the bat when we ate them, was that they seemed to have a strange taste, unlike the taste of the Dot. LSD is supposed to be a tasteless substance I believe, so this threw me off a bit. (Note: It may just have been the taste of the Dot itself, but I believed to have tasted something somewhat bitter). - It also struck me as odd to have acid dosed in this way...

Anyways, so we go to the park with a couple of other friends... and after waiting, and waiting, and waiting... an hour goes by and we feel nothing. There was a point where my one friend and I "thought" we felt something, but nothing ever came of this. So - two more hours go by, and by this time we just concede that what we had eaten was bunk - just some 20 cent candy - and began to smoke a blunt with some friends.

Just as the blunt is being rolled, myself and my two friends begin to feel a little "weird" and spacey. We couldn't quite pinpoint what it was that we felt, but it sure as hell didn't feel like any comeup I'd ever had before. Not sure what we were feeling, and thinking it was just placebo or food deprivation (we hadn't eaten in a while, heh), we continued to smoke some bud.

5 minutes after the blunt was done, I started to feel like I had a bit of a bodyload and a lot of energy, and realized that this was definitely not just a marijuana trip. I went to the bathroom, and noticed that my pupils had become dilated (nowhere near as much as say, on a good dose of mushrooms - but noticeably dilated). Headlights from cars and streetlights were very vivid and intense, almost comparable to how they look after eating mushrooms, but there were no tracers, no morphing or patterning, or anything very "psychedelic."

At the "peak" of what I felt, I noticed that I was going through 'waves' of feeling it... i.e. laughing, being happy, thinking that it's working... and then 5 minutes later have the feelings diminish greatly. After about 6 hours after ingestion (so, roughly 3 hours after feeling "effects") my pupils returned to a more normal size, and my iris started to be able to contract again.

Does anyone know what this might have been? One of my friends who hadn't taken it said that he once had a hit of acid which apparently was a DO-something (DOM? DOB?), and that it kicked in again almost 12 hours after ingestion. I'm hoping this isn't the same deal here, but I'm fairly certain whatever it was I took was something along those lines, or an RC for sure. The only other thought I have is that it was a very low dose, or one that wasn't properly stored.

Any help would be much appreciated, and thanks for reading :-)


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Offlinephungi
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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Ashland]
    #5788713 - 06/25/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I had some gel recently that was like that. A bitter taste, about 2 hours for effects, no peak really, 6-8 hours of hmmmm i think i dosed.

We just got ripped off, thats all. What the world needs is trustworthy dealer with standardized shit!!!

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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Ashland]
    #5788733 - 06/25/06 06:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

LSD will kick in about 30-60 minutes after injestion. You likely got a really weak dose, a low-grade trip. It's a roll of the dice with acid, and you got something at least. I never heard of a dose kicking in after 12 hours (that's bs IMHO).


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: MLBjammer]
    #5788814 - 06/25/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sounds exactly like dob

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dob/

had some not too long ago.


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OfflineAshland
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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: kotik]
    #5789602 - 06/25/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, now that I read the Erowid entry on DOB, it seems very much like I had a low-medium dose. One of my friends and I kept saying how it felt like we had 'something' wrong with our stomachs, like gas or indigestion, although it persisted longer than it really should have. Also, I was yawning a lot (though not quite like a mushroom yawn).


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Ashland]
    #5789622 - 06/25/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't want to hijack your thread but I didn't really feel like making my own. Not too long ago I aquired some LSD at Bonnaroo but was wanting to save it until I got home as I already had some mushrooms to take while I was there. It was hot as hell there and for some time it sat out exposed to the air and the heat inside my tent and for a small amount of time even sat inside my car (must of gotten pretty hot in there). My question is this: What sort of effect does exposure to heat (guessing around the 100 degree range) and air have on a few hits of LSD? Could the heat have ruined my LSD or was it probably bunk in the first place?


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Ashland]
    #5789634 - 06/25/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sounds very similar to my "lsd" experience. Energy, and kind of a rush to do everything(i.e. get out of the house). We got our hits on bottle cap candies. I posted something asking what i had and people were saying it was probably dob, but it lasted quite a bit of time so im thinking it was just very weak. It's lame how people sell other drugs off as acid. Whats the world coming to when you cant trust drug dealers?


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Phishe]
    #5789667 - 06/25/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

other than the supposed bitter taste, it sounds like some weak, dirty acid. check erowid, ideally lsd takes about 45 min or so, but can take longer, especially if its impure.


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Ashland]
    #5789776 - 06/25/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yea sounds like some DOX, just the other day i got like 5 hits of some shit the guy said was acid, but i knew it wasnt before i bought it. But i still decided to get it because all ive been groovin on around here lately is shrooms.


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: 2859558484]
    #5790359 - 06/25/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Several substances could be passed of as acid and someone without a lot experience in RC's could just assume that it's dirty/tainted lsd.

However, if you are familar with that synthetic phenethylamine/tryptamine 'feel', it's much easier to pick up on 'fake' acid or actual lsd. I should note that even an experienced head would probably be unable to pinpoint a psychedelic substance with great accuracy, besides being able to tell you that this isn't lsd. There is such a variety of experiences due to the great influence of set and setting on a psychedelic journey that it's really hard to narrow down something determinately.

Other substances to consider are several of the phenethylamines, 5meo-amt especially, 2c-e, 2c-i to a lesser extent, 2c-b, etc.


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: FunnyFaces]
    #5790958 - 06/25/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

To update... another one of my friends took two hits of the stuff today at this festival I was playing, and he hardly felt anything, just random laughter and feeling "off" for several hours. Based on everyone's responses and stories, I think it was undoubtedly some RC or DOX chemical.. The effects were similar to those produced by TMFPP or some synthetic phenethylamine, but I don't believe it was exactly that.


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Ashland]
    #5794502 - 06/27/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ha ha you guys are so nice. today i did something good. the bud peddlers i help every once in awhile called looking for bud again. i tell 'um "ya! but you gotta drive 2 hours". they say thats cool and then tell me how much bud they want. i then ask if they have all the money they need. "No, we're just going to take it for free." i say "OK, so you're going to take it from them?". they concur and i send them on there 2 hour drive down there. the dude they want to rob is an old friend of mine. the one friend i got high with for the first time back in the day. so i call up my old friend and tell him the news, he laughs and says "They don't even have guns?", I reply, "NO!". He then told me he wanted to rob them so i told him they didn't have any money. I told him to ignore their phone calls and that they needed to be taught a lesson. so in the end those two jokers got robbed of about 4 hours of their life. LOL!

BTW, I'm not trying to brag, I'm just saying that this post is about the explanation for why the original poster didn't trip. the simplest explanation is the correct one. its not some other chemical, its a lack of any chemical on the candy homeboy bought. it just hit close to home with me so i shared the story of the ONE(and only) time I ripped someone off.

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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: MacBluntski]
    #5794655 - 06/27/06 01:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

fuck you must associate with some low-life ghetto motherfuckers... judging from your avatar and the way you talk.

I vote on a ban for this scum

ur stuck in an endless cycle, scumbag... vengeance = vengeance (+malice from cuntfucks like you) = vengeance = etc etc


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: indica]
    #5794908 - 06/27/06 04:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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xk3m_indica said:
fuck you must associate with some low-life ghetto motherfuckers... judging from your avatar and the way you talk.





that makes no sense. since when do people get judged here by their typing and avatars? this is just some kid. after he grows out of the rap phase, he'll be lying about something else.


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: MacBluntski]
    #5795564 - 06/27/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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MacBluntski said:
ha ha you guys are so nice. today i did something good. the bud peddlers i help every once in awhile called looking for bud again. i tell 'um "ya! but you gotta drive 2 hours". they say thats cool and then tell me how much bud they want. i then ask if they have all the money they need. "No, we're just going to take it for free." i say "OK, so you're going to take it from them?". they concur and i send them on there 2 hour drive down there. the dude they want to rob is an old friend of mine. the one friend i got high with for the first time back in the day. so i call up my old friend and tell him the news, he laughs and says "They don't even have guns?", I reply, "NO!". He then told me he wanted to rob them so i told him they didn't have any money. I told him to ignore their phone calls and that they needed to be taught a lesson. so in the end those two jokers got robbed of about 4 hours of their life. LOL!

BTW, I'm not trying to brag, I'm just saying that this post is about the explanation for why the original poster didn't trip. the simplest explanation is the correct one. its not some other chemical, its a lack of any chemical on the candy homeboy bought. it just hit close to home with me so i shared the story of the ONE(and only) time I ripped someone off.

Peas
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The one and only time? Heres at least 2 you already said and I HIGHLY doubt those are the only 2 times.

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i made $160 selling fake ten strips to a kid at school, he collected everyones money and brought it to me




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i once told a kid at a skatepark that i'd sell his bud for double what he paid for it. i told him i'd be right back with his money too. he was like 13, kids don't need to smoking at that age




And as far as saying people with passing grades in college shouldn't be doing drugs, ha I think its wanna-be gangstas like you that shouldn't be allowed to touch any sort of drug. And I'm done with this shit...just out to prove your a shithead but you did a pretty good job of that by yourself....so thanks.


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Ashland]
    #5795636 - 06/27/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you guys get too fired up over this stuff


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: MacBluntski]
    #5799045 - 06/28/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

back to the topic i got some gels that are suspected to be some DOx chem. I'm wondering what size dose could be put in a gel?


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: MacBluntski]
    #5800110 - 06/28/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

if anything we're going mild on u...I mean are so completely fuckin retarded that u wouldn't realize that ppl on a drug board who obviously use drugs aren't gonna be pissed off when someone TRYS to brag about rippin ppl off???...your the kinda scum that requires threads about fake lsd etc

I'd look for another forum to brag about your destructive actions cause trust me we're going easy on u...there are ppl on this forum with the ability to find out everything about u and could use that to fuck YOU over...just the fact that u would brag about this shows me how little u've actually thought about ur actions and how clueless u are to the drug culture in general...my advice is to get off the shroomery and to find some new friends and focus on your homework...cause otherwise your gonna be nothing but another (shit)stain in time


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5800292 - 06/28/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

www.50cent.com forums has some pretty mindless chit chat...


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Re: Fake LSD? [Re: indica]
    #5804294 - 06/29/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

someone edited this thread?


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