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OfflineGetBakedOrDieTry
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Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly
    #5787324 - 06/24/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Here is what i did....

1. Got a hammer and got a paper bag
2. Got 55 Rivea Seeds...
3. Smashed the Rivea seeds with the hammer, hitting it about 30-60 times
3. Put about 2 cups of water to about 3 cups of water...
4. Put a bunch of lemon juice in... Not sure how much but a lot like 25% of the liquid is the lemon juice..
6. I plan on waiting 24 hours for the the LSA to activate then i will consume after the 24 hour period.

At the present: what i see in the bottle

Right now at the bottom of the closed gatorbottle that i have, all i see are a bunch of brown chunks that look like sand at the bottom of the bottle... I did however feel the plastic bag and the fragments there are much smaller. And if i let the bottle sit i will see a kind of white fog in the bottle, but that looks like the lemon juice sinking to the bottom, or the saliva in my mouth.

I started this at 7 p.m and plan on drinking it the next day at about 7 p.m or 6 p.m... Tell me if u think it will work...


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: GetBakedOrDieTry]
    #5787352 - 06/24/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It wont work as well as eating far less.

Lemon/water extracts only do the trick at about 60% of the ability of the plant material.

You should have went with some HBWR seeds. Youll feel something. You also might end up being one of those people who almost hate lsa's because they "dont do much".

Depending on the Riv.C seeds you have you could have an amazing but subtle trip after 24 hour of soaking. If they are weak you will be disappointed. If you had eaten any fraction of that you would trip anywhere ranging from a subtle trip, to a unique and somehow intense trip.


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: stemmer]
    #5787369 - 06/24/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

show me how to do it the best way...


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: GetBakedOrDieTry]
    #5787383 - 06/24/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I know little about R.c.............

Read more about the dose you might need, then soak them for a long time and eat the pulp too.

They vary so greatly in potency. To the point where I cant give a solid answer to that question.


Edited by stemmer (06/24/06 07:44 PM)


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: stemmer]
    #5787541 - 06/24/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The pulp being the leftover shells right?


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: GetBakedOrDieTry]
    #5787547 - 06/24/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The whole seed leftover in crushed/powder form.


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: GetBakedOrDieTry]
    #5789480 - 06/25/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I can see serious problems with what you are doing, and here is why:

1- The dose you are describing seems very high from what I have read. Go back to the thread where you were asking about how to prepare the Rivea seeds. Go to the links I showed you, and read them. According to one, your dose is DOUBLE what they recommend, and according to the other it is just over FOUR TIMES the dose they recommend.

You really need to consider this. These seeds contain chemicals which act as vasoconstrictors. This means that they will shrink your blood vessels. If your blood vessels become too narrow, your blood pressure could rise dangerously, landing you dead or in the hospital. Dosage is important. Also, do not take this with grapefruit juice, or if you are on any antibiotics.

2- You need to do more research on the matter. Keep asking around, and search the web. Leaving your seeds to soak a day or two longer will not harm them. If anything, it will make the brew more potent.

3- If you are not willing to do some research on the drugs you take, then it is obvious that you are not mature or responsible enough to be taking them. Period.

If I were you, I would wait a day or two and do more research. It can only help you, whereas if you leap into this unprepared, you could regret it. And I would probably only drink HALF of the dose you described. If I didn’t feel it in a couple hours, I could always drink more, but you can’t undo the past, right? Once you take it, there is no going back.

And eating the seed pulp will increase the nausea. That’s why we do extractions. A person is far less likely to want to puke if they drink the extract, than consuming the seed mass. Rivea is supposed to be better on the nausea than MG or HBWR, but slurping down seed pulp is pretty fucking disgusting no matter what. Trust me on this.


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #5789659 - 06/25/06 03:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like your extraction method will be wasteful if you don't eat the crushed seed powder... especially if you drink it too soon... on the other hand, since you're using about twice as many seeds as one might otherwise- you'll probably have a reasonable dose in your liquid before too long.

I find it's hard to constantly sip LSA drinks- but I would dose with half of the material and see how you feel before taking the rest.

I had a friend who chugged his 600ml of tea I made him all at once (~10grams morning glory) and proceeded to throw up everywhere, then proceeded to have fairly good trip.

There is a fairly high physical load from these types of seeds.


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5789804 - 06/25/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It is true that SOME active substance is wasted when you perform an extraction. A few things to keep in mind, however:

1- The “traditional” dose according to iamshaman is 25 Rivea seeds. The “traditional” method of use is also a cold water extraction. So, I would guess this is enough. The other website I found recommends as little as 13 seeds.

2- The seed mush will contain a lot of the undesirable compounds. I’m not sure if it pertains to one kind of seed (MG, HBWR, Rivea..) or all of them, but Hofmann’s testing reported the presence of cyanogenic glycosides in the seeds. From what I understand, cyanogenic glycosides have limited solubility in water, whereas the active compounds are readily soluble. This means that leaving the mush behind, you still get MOST of the actives, while leaving behind most of the shit that will cause nausea.

I’ve eaten 15 grams of morning glories, and I’ve had extract of 15 grams. The biggest difference I noticed was in the nausea and the body-load. Although, you’ll get some body-load with this stuff no matter what. I’ve only thrown up from an extract once (30 grams, chugged on an empty stomach… and there was SOME seed mush left in the liquid) Whereas I’ve thrown up from eating whole seeds more than once.


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #5791078 - 06/25/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

GetBakedAndDieTry, how old are you?


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #5791727 - 06/26/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I know that i doubled the dose too much (which i shouldn't of) and i did it yesterday... It didn't work, i probably didn't powder it enough... But for some reason i think the rivera seeds i received were fake. I Received these rivera seeds by ordering salvia from Salviasupply.com... This is odd considering someone faking the seeds if u can buy them in shops, but considering how many times i fricken hit the seeds with the hammer it should of worked. I... I'm all out of seeds now and gotta go get some more from a shop, i'll probably get the Hawwiaan or whatever they are called.

Also dude even if u didn't powder the seeds as much as u should have, u should still notice something right? because i didn't notice anything at all. Not getting any sleep today makes me trip more then those rivera...


Edited by GetBakedOrDieTry (06/26/06 06:39 AM)


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Re: Will be first LSA my experince i need to know i did everything correctly [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #5791730 - 06/26/06 06:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Also someone told me to eat the seeds, because u were only suppose to extract if the seeds were sprayed for pests, which they weren't, and i also didn't experince any nausea. Infact the first time i tried it... I did ten seeds just put water in a cup and grated the seeds a lil and put them in there and then ate them after having them in there for a couple of hours and still no nausea.


Edited by GetBakedOrDieTry (06/26/06 06:38 AM)


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