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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineTriplexiosis
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self-sufficience
    #5786176 - 06/24/06 11:46 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

People need people to be people (human?) So in an ideal world everyone would be friendly, caring, compassionate, loving and loved.
This world is in no way ideal, but it's our world and we make the best of things (or worst of things, depends)
Values of peace, understanding, love, compassion... are much more apparent here, than they would be in an ideal world not posessed by the "ego".

In a materialistic world we live in (for the most part imo), a human being is thought of as self-sufficient. Yet it depends on society to survive. (most of the people I encounter seem to believe in some form of this self-sufficiensy)
A self-sufficient being has no need of other beings around it, yet us humans constantly prove to need each-other in some way or another.
Some of us even need others to feel self-sufficient and this is in no way self-sufficiency, it's delusions of grandeur.
So we keep what we need, discard what we don't need (with no regard if it needs us) and are convinced we need only ourselves in the end. Without others... people, plants, animals, this planet there would be no selves to begin with however.

Do you think you're self-sufficient and in what way if so?


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"If there were no desire to heal, the damaged and broken met along this tedious path I've choosen here, I certainly would have walked away by now" Tool - Patient

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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Re: self-sufficience [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5786187 - 06/24/06 12:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I am self sufficient in the act of accepting responsibility for everything I experience in life.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: self-sufficience [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5786189 - 06/24/06 12:02 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Lol, a modern man is anything but self-sufficient.
All those people who think they are, I wonder that they would feel like if suddenly they got fired, lost electricity, water, telephone, internet, mobile networks, and were striped of all technology (which needs maintenance by other people)
I think a lot of them would die of thirst or hunger in a month


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Re: self-sufficience [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5786196 - 06/24/06 12:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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All those people who think they are, I wonder that they would feel like if...



anger, hatred, rage, wars... it's all around us i guess. And not all of it springs from greed too, but this "pride" as well.


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Re: self-sufficience [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5786222 - 06/24/06 12:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Triplexiosis said:
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All those people who think they are, I wonder that they would feel like if...



anger, hatred, rage, wars... it's all around us i guess. And not all of it springs from greed too, but this "pride" as well.




It all comes down to fear. Some people are just afraid to accept that they are inherently weak and that life is just unpredictable no matter how much you think you have it in your control.

For example, I always laughed at people who get suprized when top-doctors can't cure something because they believe it's all a matter of money, and that if you have enough money anything can be cured.
Those people are cowards, hiding behind money from the fact that they are mortal and there is nothing they can do about it.

It takes courage to admit that you are at mercy of nature


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine


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Re: self-sufficience [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5786270 - 06/24/06 12:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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OldWoodSpecter said:
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Triplexiosis said:
Quote:

All those people who think they are, I wonder that they would feel like if...



anger, hatred, rage, wars... it's all around us i guess. And not all of it springs from greed too, but this "pride" as well.




It all comes down to fear. Some people are just afraid to accept that they are inherently weak and that life is just unpredictable no matter how much you think you have it in your control.

For example, I always laughed at people who get suprized when top-doctors can't cure something because they believe it's all a matter of money, and that if you have enough money anything can be cured.
Those people are cowards, hiding behind money from the fact that they are mortal and there is nothing they can do about it.

It takes courage to admit that you are at mercy of nature




:thumbup: :thumbup:


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"If there were no desire to heal, the damaged and broken met along this tedious path I've choosen here, I certainly would have walked away by now" Tool - Patient

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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