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Offlinekjb1891
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Temperature Cycling?
    #5784372 - 06/23/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I know that for growing cubensis in the initial colonization period in jars or bags the temperature is supposed to be kept in the 80-85F range, but do you think it is beneficial at all to let the temperature come down to room temperature sometimes to mimic day and night temperatures in the mushrooms natural environment?


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Re: Temperature Cycling? [Re: kjb1891]
    #5784399 - 06/23/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I would think they like a constant temp in the 80-85 range. I think that mushrooms are just robust and hardy for outdoor climates and the fluctuations in growing conditions that occur.


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Re: Temperature Cycling? [Re: zeegos]
    #5784531 - 06/23/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Our little buddys do not like change (fact) they do best when parameters are optimal for each stage of growth. The reason mushrooms do so well outdoors is the fact that in nature there is unlimited fresh air exchanges and RH conditions are where they should be. We can mimic this environment pretty closely with the right automated setup.


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Re: Temperature Cycling? [Re: kjb1891]
    #5784808 - 06/23/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Have you ever looked for mushrooms in nature? The artificial environments that we create are much better for mushroom cultivation. When have you ever said "Look at that pinset!" for a patch of shrooms in the wild?


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Re: Temperature Cycling? [Re: FooMan]
    #5785037 - 06/23/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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FooManShroom said:
Have you ever looked for mushrooms in nature? The artificial environments that we create are much better for mushroom cultivation. When have you ever said "Look at that pinset!" for a patch of shrooms in the wild?



I for one have seen massively prolific natual patches when conditions were right but the point is unless we have it going we won't come close to nature. As you have pointed out FooManShroom we can create a much more stable environment consistantly and with the proper knowledge we can rival natures best pinsets. BTW not all artificial environments are the same.


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Re: Temperature Cycling? [Re: hyphae]
    #5785915 - 06/24/06 02:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

id like to throw in also, that most mushroom mycelium grows on and sometimes in the ground.
the ground temperatures actually dont fluctuate nearly as much as indoor temps, and even outdoor temps a mere foot above the surface.
also, during fruiting stages, its usually very humid and very moist, caused by the rains passing through in most cases. humidity and moisture are also temperature buffers, keeping that substrate and the forming mushrooms at the same temp for a longer period. hence why the temperature never seems to get above 70-80s on those rainy days, nor does it seem to get below.


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Re: Temperature Cycling? [Re: hyphae]
    #5786014 - 06/24/06 05:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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hyphae said:
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FooManShroom said:
Have you ever looked for mushrooms in nature? The artificial environments that we create are much better for mushroom cultivation. When have you ever said "Look at that pinset!" for a patch of shrooms in the wild?



I for one have seen massively prolific natual patches when conditions were right but the point is unless we have it going we won't come close to nature. As you have pointed out FooManShroom we can create a much more stable environment consistantly and with the proper knowledge we can rival natures best pinsets. BTW not all artificial environments are the same.




I too have seen some massive patches. I am in one of the best places in the country to find cubensis and Pan Cyans in the wild. My point is that you won't normally find patches like this because the conditions have to be just right. You can find a nice patch after 10 minutes of searching or you can find nothing for days. His original question was should he mimic nature and I was simply trying to illustrate the point that nature won't produce consistent results like we can.


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Re: Temperature Cycling? [Re: FooMan]
    #5786098 - 06/24/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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FooManShroom said:
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hyphae said:
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FooManShroom said:
Have you ever looked for mushrooms in nature? The artificial environments that we create are much better for mushroom cultivation. When have you ever said "Look at that pinset!" for a patch of shrooms in the wild?



I for one have seen massively prolific natual patches when conditions were right but the point is unless we have it going we won't come close to nature. As you have pointed out FooManShroom we can create a much more stable environment consistantly and with the proper knowledge we can rival natures best pinsets. BTW not all artificial environments are the same.




I too have seen some massive patches. I am in one of the best places in the country to find cubensis and Pan Cyans in the wild. My point is that you won't normally find patches like this because the conditions have to be just right. You can find a nice patch after 10 minutes of searching or you can find nothing for days. His original question was should he mimic nature and I was simply trying to illustrate the point that nature won't produce consistent results like we can.



Agreed, I was reiterating basically what you said but still giving nature some credit for some breathtaking flushes. :wink:


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