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Schwammel
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Veritas]
#5787079 - 06/24/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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is taht soo?
who told you?
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capliberty
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Triplexiosis]
#5787085 - 06/24/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That definition is to disproof Deja Vu because its classified as a "mystic experience" or to explain why some crazy person has some reoccurring memory disorder,
Deja Vu means none of those,
Quite in fact Deja Vu is a very valid argument for the realness of cosmic consciousness
I'd be skeptical too if I didn't have a first hand experience with Deja Vu, besides Deja Vu is nothing, compared to what can really happen,
Deja Vu really means having a recollection from a past dream or memory about a current experience, or future experience, such as being in a certain spot, putting in an element of fate within your time line, besides it makes sense, when you view this plane of existence beyond three dimensions, It is not a memory jolt to trick your brain, because I can recollect the time when I had this past memory, most Deja Vu experiences are weak and hardly noticeable, and some reluctance and doubt are attributed to the experience
But sometimes they can very vivid in detail and very blatant, making no doubt it was a Deja Vu experience
One time on shrooms I'd had some real strong Deja Vu experience, it was a strange night, for some reason you could see the air, the cosmic consciousness or cosmic energy was thick, its like kaos in its nature and its movement, and something more profound happened that night than the Deja Vu experiences, that could highlight the nature of dreams,
but anyways these are my experiences, who am I to tell you, so take it for what its worth
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: capliberty]
#5787191 - 06/24/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Beliefs are acceptance of a notion as being true, that the idea represents reality. You stated that such a notion explains the mechanics of a certain phenomenon "more accurately" than other explanations.
I also stated "imho", and my opinion can be very wrong.
"Belief is usually defined as a conviction to the truth of a proposition without its verification, therefore it is a subjective mental interpretation of the perception results, own contemplation/reasoning or communication." So yes, probablly "belief" was a bad use of words, as I am not 100% convinced this is the truth. But I do lean towards the idea of collective consciousness more than others for now... still I'm not what you would call a logical person, so what do i know 
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Imagination may motivate but it does not materialize.
Tnx for placing into words what I could not.
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
#5787281 - 06/24/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't necessarily change my life, more like my life would 'be changed'.
no afterlife means no spiritual powers. I'd say that would change my life drastically. I'd probably be serving several back to back life sentences now 
as far as behaviorially, I would probably focus on conquest to the point of never having to feel pain or sadness. In other words, I would be a totally ruthless hedonist who would probably destroy everything around me in persuit of the fulfillment of my own pleasure.
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Panoramix
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
#5787318 - 06/24/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"For everyone who said they wouldn't change anything: is this because you already live your life as if there isn't an afterlife? Or do you have some other reason for living as you do now?"
I don't expect an afterlife, certainly not a fluffy-clouds, pearly-gates type afterlife, but that's mostly because I don't want to jinx it. I think that death is in no way the end of the line.
I wouldn't change my life because I'm already living in the way I deign most suitable for me, mostly accurately reflective of my wants, needs and personal beliefs.
Ooo, I take that back, I would not have just taken a bite of that block of cheese, as I suspect now that it may indeed be off.
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Schwammel]
#5787387 - 06/24/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No one told me. I examined the verifiable facts for myself, recognized that many aspects were untestable, and came up with my best guess as to the way our identity is constructed and maintained.
BTW, identity does not mean soul/spirit, but personality. Who do you think you are?
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The logical mind is only as good as the amount of information that is being imput into it. And how much information about the does a human mind have access to these days? Very little, therefore our logic at this point is really a weak tool.
I would say that with the Internet and depending on the quality of our Google searches, we have a TON of information to access these days. Far more than ever. That information filtered through quality logic is a powerful tool indeed.
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: LunarEclipse]
#5787560 - 06/24/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like all the capitalization of déja-vu going on here. Déja-vu is just french that literal translates to 'already seen'. It refers simply to experiences and situations that seem familiar as they are being engaged in, the sensation of something happening that has already happened.
"I would say that with the Internet and depending on the quality of our Google searches, we have a TON of information to access these days. Far more than ever. That information filtered through quality logic is a powerful tool indeed."
A ton of information may be at our disposal, but sources can still be shady. And we still have to recieve this information through our limited senses and interpret it with our limited minds. But yeah, lots more facts are available than at any other time in human history. Oddly, stupidity persists.
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OldWoodSpecter
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: LunarEclipse]
#5788654 - 06/25/06 05:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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LunarEclipse said: The logical mind is only as good as the amount of information that is being imput into it. And how much information about the does a human mind have access to these days? Very little, therefore our logic at this point is really a weak tool.
I would say that with the Internet and depending on the quality of our Google searches, we have a TON of information to access these days. Far more than ever. That information filtered through quality logic is a powerful tool indeed.
yes, but humanity has little information. You can't find anything on google that hasn't been discovered by top scientists
We are still these small creatures stuck on this planet, that live for only about 70-80 years
Now consider the size of the universe and consider how much of it is in our control. Very little. We can't even control our own bodies.
So what he have discovered about the universe is so little, a tiny fraction of what there is to know.
Ultimate knowledge of the universe (knowing everything if that is possible) would result in us being masters of the universe, being imortal, and controling galaxies, stars, traveling anywhere in a second etc.
Can you google on how to make yourself live 500 years? Can you google on how to make a machine to travel to alpha centaury faster than the speed of light? nope, because we lack that information
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LunarEclipse
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Google has all the answers to the universe and would love to let you know for a price but the NSA and in the interest of National Security won't let them tell you.
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Veritas

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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: LunarEclipse]
#5788816 - 06/25/06 08:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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All hail Google, the wise and mighty. May the shackles of confinement be removed from thine holy codes.
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Panoramix]
#5788843 - 06/25/06 08:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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sources can still be shady
To me, the most dangerous are the "news stories" written by the govt. or some special interest group passed off as real news. That's propaganda and it's even worse because people think it's from an unbiased source and believe it. It happens more and more as time goes on.
It's like this thread. The basic premise is that there is an afterlife because we were told by the "unbiased" source, the church, every Sunday that there IS a Heaven and Hell. Sooner or later, most of us believed it. And kept paying our tithes to build new Churches where we could hear more about this wonderful heaven.
"The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed." -Joseph Goebbels
Sure he was a Nazi, but he was definitely on to something. Heaven is one of The Big Lies. Still, the Catholic Church et. al. must be telling it well as they own more land than anyone else in the world.
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Edited by LunarEclipse (06/25/06 08:30 AM)
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: LunarEclipse]
#5788849 - 06/25/06 08:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Unfortunately, the Big Lie Theory continues to be proven true. 
 Peace.
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If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Veritas]
#5788858 - 06/25/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because of their mighty powers, the people that work there don't even use the G word. They say they work for O2. Code name Oxygen.
You are on a need to know basis but trust me it will be big.
Edit: OK here it is - An ambitious global network proposal that was supposed to link 78 countries with more than 100,000 miles of optical fiber (mostly under the sea) at a minimum transmission speed of 1.2 Gbps. Originally estimated to cost more than $10 billion for the trans-Atlantic segment, the project ran out of funding in 2000 and was never resurrected.
Google has resurrected it in a Big Way.
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Edited by LunarEclipse (06/25/06 08:48 AM)
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OldWoodSpecter
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: LunarEclipse]
#5788860 - 06/25/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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LunarEclipse said: Google has all the answers to the universe and would love to let you know for a price but the NSA and in the interest of National Security won't let them tell you.
Well I don't see anyone in NSA older than 120
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: fireworks_god]
#5788868 - 06/25/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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See how you called it a Big Lie Theory just like the Conspiracy Theory.
Is it still a Theory if it's happening every freaking day to those that pay even a little attention? Granted, people are stupid but can they really be that stupid? Don't answer that...
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LunarEclipse
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Of course not, once they have the immortality procedure, they remain the same appearance forever.
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Edited by LunarEclipse (06/25/06 08:43 AM)
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: LunarEclipse]
#5788970 - 06/25/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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But the portraits hidden in their attics continue to age.
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Veritas]
#5789331 - 06/25/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Karn Evil Nine Third Impression
Man alone; born of stone; Will stamp the dust of time His hands strike the flame of his soul; Ties a rope to a tree and hangs the Universe Until the wind of laughter blows cold. Fear that rattles in men's ears And rears it's hideous head Dread .... Death .... in the wind ....
Man of steel pray and kneel With fever's blazing torch Thrust into the face of the night; Draws a blade of compassion Kissed by countless Kings Whose jewelled trumpet words blind his sight.
Walls that no man thought would fall The altars of the just Crushed .... Dust .... in the wind ....
No man yields who flies in my ship DANGER! Let the bridge computer speak STRANGER! LOAD YOUR PROGRAM. I AM YOURSELF.
No computer stands in my way Only blood can cancel my pain Guardians of a new clear dawn Let the maps of war be drawn.
Rejoice! Glory is ours! Our young men have not died in vain, Their graves need no flowers The tapes have recorded their names.
I am all there is NEGATIVE! PRIMITIVE! LIMITED! I LET YOU LIVE! But I gave you life WHAT ELSE COULD YOU DO? To do what was right I'M PERFECT! ARE YOU?
The future is in the hands of the machines...we just don't know it yet. See Terminator 3 for more details...
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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: LunarEclipse]
#5789599 - 06/25/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like ELP!
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